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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#128176: May 13th 2021 at 11:57:14 AM

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I can't laugh at that joke as I normally would.

I guess this talk of downplaying Xavier has gotten to me a little. Like I said, I can totally get why some would want things that way (especially since Charles has had pretty good portrayals across the board, barring missteps here and there while other characters still need a more accurate showing), but it still irks me.

.....Lockheed is cool though.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#128177: May 13th 2021 at 11:59:22 AM

We've had enough Prof X, Magneto, Wolverine, and Mystique for a while now.

I don't know why thats a sad thing with how overexposed all characters became.

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RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#128178: May 13th 2021 at 12:02:41 PM

I'm expecting/hoping Marvel to not use those characters right away, the same way their Spider-Man films haven't used Uncle Ben, Gwen Stacy, Mary Jane, or the Osborns.

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#128179: May 13th 2021 at 12:02:55 PM

For the record, I dont want Xavier to be cut. At all. He's way too important, and honestly just a fun character. But he just needs to be the Charlie to the X-Men's Angels.

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#128180: May 13th 2021 at 12:07:02 PM

[up]That's probably the best way it could be put. He really has to be there, it'd be wrong if he wasn't, just not as much as he has been recently.

Edited by lbssb on May 13th 2021 at 12:07:25 PM

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VengefulBale Bishie Gijinka Meta Knight from Nowhere Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: It's complicated
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#128181: May 13th 2021 at 12:08:38 PM

My exact thoughts, him giving orders and consulting with his students from time to time but still leaving the spotlight on the students should be a good enough compromise

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#128182: May 13th 2021 at 12:08:43 PM

I would be okay with Mystique coming in quickly if we get a Truer to Text adaptation.

Showcase her abusive relationship with Rogue and Nightcrawler so the MCU can finally have some mommy problems.

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Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#128183: May 13th 2021 at 12:09:44 PM

Make her a villain in The Marvels. Get Rogue some of that Caprain Marvel juice.

Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#128184: May 13th 2021 at 12:12:14 PM

Honestly, between how he was among the spotlight hogs on the Fox movies and the fear of them dealing with the graveyards in the closet the comics version has, I'd be ok with them not having the Prof around for a while.

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Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#128185: May 13th 2021 at 12:12:23 PM

For the record, I dont want Xavier to be cut. At all. He's way too important, and honestly just a fun character. But he just needs to be the Charlie to the X-Men's Angels.

This, basically.

I can kinda buy that argument for Xavier, but Magneto? No.

Sure, he's the first villain they faced, but any mutant using their powers for evil (and there have been a lot of those) could fill the role just as well.

As a physical threat, sure. Philosophically however the relationship between Xavier and Magneto, their similarities and differences, is the crux of the X-Men's (admittedly strained) racism metaphor. Without him the whole mutant conflict is significantly simpler and IMO duller.

[up][up][up] Same here. Original trilogy was nothing more than Magneto's shapeshifting Dragon and the reboot series morphed her into some kind of bizarre OOC mutant icon. We really haven't had that much of the actual Mystique in film form yet.

Edited by Watchtower on May 13th 2021 at 3:14:17 PM

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#128186: May 13th 2021 at 12:25:18 PM

Wait MJ is in the MCU

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Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#128187: May 13th 2021 at 12:29:04 PM

Kinda, she got composited with a much more obscure and short-lived love interest.

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Mizerous Pet Owner from Hell Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
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#128188: May 13th 2021 at 12:49:35 PM

[up][up][up] Plus she was only related to Xavier and Magneto.

Just Makima.
alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#128189: May 13th 2021 at 12:57:10 PM

I wonder if they'll do jerk comics Xavier to be different. tongue

Krory Since: Aug, 2012
#128190: May 13th 2021 at 1:07:33 PM

As long as they don't do the slow genocide X-Men, I'm happy.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#128191: May 13th 2021 at 1:32:16 PM

“Professor Xavier is a jerk!”

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#128192: May 13th 2021 at 1:33:56 PM

Well at least we won't have to suffer "Cyclops is Hitler" here.

If we're lucky we can maybe get a scene of Wolverine getting his ass handed backwards to him by someone. [lol]

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Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#128193: May 13th 2021 at 1:42:36 PM

Cyclops, probably THE poster boy of Ron the Death Eater in modern day comic history.

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Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#128194: May 13th 2021 at 2:20:45 PM

I honestly think Xavier's in a worse place nowadays. He and Magneto are two sides of what's supposed to be a sociopolitical debate and yet most modern sentiment paints Xavier's dream as moderate milquetoast garbage from a privileged hypocrite. I've seen quite a number opine for Jonathan Hickman's X-Men to be the new status quo, not coincidentally one where Xavier realizes his dream is bullshit and works instead to give Magneto more or less what he wants.

Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#128195: May 13th 2021 at 2:25:12 PM

To be fair, Xavier always had a manipulative streak, from his very conception on. He also had some......problematic feelings towards Jean.

He never was a white knight, that image came with the films and Patrick Stewart's portrayal.

Edited by Forenperser on May 13th 2021 at 11:26:39 AM

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#128196: May 13th 2021 at 2:26:48 PM

Poor cyclops. Even when hes right, the work throws him under the bus to make him the badguy.

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Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#128198: May 13th 2021 at 2:34:55 PM

[up][up] True, the problem is Magneto is the biggest Draco in Leather Pants of the entire Marvel universe, and the better Magneto gets the more Xavier gets dragged into Ron the Death Eater in response.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#128199: May 13th 2021 at 2:35:40 PM

Poor Cyclops

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#128200: May 13th 2021 at 2:35:42 PM

All because people find Wolverine’s slobbering and growling mega badass.

Edited by slimcoder on May 13th 2021 at 2:36:10 AM

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