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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

FGHIK Since: Aug, 2013
#128151: May 13th 2021 at 9:24:07 AM

Given the MCU's track record so far, I'm pretty confident in their ability to make movies for the more popular characters like Wolverine while still giving the more niche ones their fair share of the spotlight.

The bigger problem is definitely casting. I could see someone else as Professor X despite how great a job Patrick Stewart did, but Hugh Jackman as Wolverine was Robert Downey Jr. level perfect. Anyone else filling that role is going to have a very big challenge matching up.

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#128152: May 13th 2021 at 9:25:20 AM

Since dark Phoenix is something no one will want to touch as an adaptation in a long while.

What to you guys suggest to use ?

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#128153: May 13th 2021 at 9:25:44 AM

Eh, Jackman was an unconventional cast at the time. They could easily go Truer to the Text and have him as a constantly angry gremlin.

Edited by Synchronicity on May 13th 2021 at 11:26:41 AM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#128154: May 13th 2021 at 9:26:25 AM

> What to you guys suggest to use ?

Shadow king

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#128155: May 13th 2021 at 9:27:43 AM

Ooh.

Honestly I would dig seeing an actual accurate version of selene too. An immortal life drinker vampire.

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#128156: May 13th 2021 at 9:31:13 AM

Shadow King would be a really interesting choice

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Whowho Since: May, 2012
#128157: May 13th 2021 at 10:20:40 AM

I definatly think, due to how beloved previous takes on Wolverine, Magneto and Xavier was, those characters should be saved for the sequal. Definatly have them in the backstory without depicting them, but hold off on them on the first outing.

If you were to ask me what my dream cast for the reboot would be in terms of characters? I'd be tempted to almost entirely favour big name mutant who had been underserved in the Fox-verse.

Iceman is definatly lacking in represention in the Fox-verse despite how prolific he is in the comics.

Jubilee as well. And Shadowcat. Gambit. Angel. Colossus.

Still there are some X-Men characters I love too much to leave them out, namely Storm and Nightcrawler.

Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#128158: May 13th 2021 at 10:22:23 AM

The thing is you can't really fully remove Xavier or Magneto because their conflict is fundamental to the entire existence of at least the X-Men as a classic superhero team. Wolverine obviously has Wolverine Publicity, and Jean Grey's honestly fine as long as you don't keep trying to rehash Weapon X and Dark Phoenix like the Fox movies did. The real problem ultimately was Mystique, a case of Jennifer Lawrence suddenly blowing up and the franchise frantically falling backwards to capitalize on it and Lawrence suddenly having the sway to not have to go through the makeup process. And that's just finding someone like Zoe Saldaña who's perfectly on board with being covered in makeup and CGI.

Probably the only other notable misuse was milking the Quicksilver gimmick as much as they could. But MCU should totally still bring back MCU!Pietro goddammit.

chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
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#128159: May 13th 2021 at 10:48:10 AM

I feel doing an X-Men film without Xavier might run into a similar problem some people have with the MCU Spider-Man films and how they don't mention Uncle Ben. Granted, they're important to their respective series in very different ways, but lord knows we're gonna run into people thinking that something's amiss without the team's founder on board.

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#128160: May 13th 2021 at 10:59:35 AM

Do what New Mutants the comic did have Xavier build the team, but make them more independent from Xavier as it goes along.

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#128161: May 13th 2021 at 11:01:03 AM

It happened pretty quickly as Xavier fucked off to space and left Magneto in charge and so all the new mutants resented Magneto for not being Magneto and kept throwing themselves into fatal situations when he asked them not to and then blaming him when they died of it and driving him back to supervillainy

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Whowho Since: May, 2012
#128162: May 13th 2021 at 11:04:17 AM

I mean, I'd still have Xavier as the founder of the team, I don't think you can wiggle out of that, but I'd just not currently about as he's dealing with some greater threat, that will be relevant to the sequal.

RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#128163: May 13th 2021 at 11:05:28 AM

The thing is you can't really fully remove Xavier or Magneto because their conflict is fundamental to the entire existence of at least the X-Men as a classic superhero team.

I can kinda buy that argument for Xavier, but Magneto? No.

Sure, he's the first villain they faced, but any mutant using their powers for evil (and there have been a lot of those) could fill the role just as well.

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#128164: May 13th 2021 at 11:15:12 AM

Silly idea: there’s a big picture of Xavier on the X-Men hq walls, they talk a lot about how he founded the team and how he’s gone now, and then the stinger is him returning from a visit with the space girlfriend or something being like “I leave for five minutes...”

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#128165: May 13th 2021 at 11:16:23 AM

Or they drop a bridge on him early on

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#128166: May 13th 2021 at 11:17:15 AM

“Stop telling people I’m dead”

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#128167: May 13th 2021 at 11:26:14 AM

Again cast Danny Devito as Wolverine.

He looks like the guy exactly, a big hairy meatball.

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#128168: May 13th 2021 at 11:30:07 AM

Someone get him to say snikt bub

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chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
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#128169: May 13th 2021 at 11:34:06 AM

Or they drop a bridge on him early on

So, X-Men: The Last Stand?

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#128170: May 13th 2021 at 11:39:30 AM

With Xavier, just have him send the X-Men team on their mission while he stays at the mansion/school. He doesnt need to be a focal point.

If we do get Wolverine again, I'd like to see him have an actual fight with Sabertooth.

Edited by Zeromaeus on May 13th 2021 at 2:52:35 PM

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#128171: May 13th 2021 at 11:41:57 AM

Yeah, Xavier really doesn't need to be anything more than just the mentor at first, especially after so many films where he's been the main lead.

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#128172: May 13th 2021 at 11:43:31 AM

Xavier being the Greater-Scope Paragon who stays at the mansion is good enough compromise to keep him in but give others spotlight.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#128173: May 13th 2021 at 11:45:20 AM

Wow.

Everyone really wants Xavier out huh?

I guess we'll see how the MCU handles it, but I am both a little depressed that someone so intrinsic to the franchise is being treated as something that needs to be avoided, but also not surprised considering how much Fox used him.

....so I blame fox. Yes. Fox.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#128174: May 13th 2021 at 11:51:16 AM

The real person intrinsic to the franchise is Lockheed the dragon

Hopefully we get him this time, and his enormous girlfriend Puff

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Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#128175: May 13th 2021 at 11:54:13 AM

He. There are apparently litte dragons in Shang Chi. It wouldnt be super weird if a little dragon showed up elswhere.


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