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Exactly. You at least need Xavier to have started that ball rolling.
This could work. Plus, it'd be interesting to see what villains they'd use without Magneto to default to.
I propose we can in fact get the ball rolling without Xavier
In the land of adaptation anything is possible, even things you might consider bad ideas
Like bad idea: Wolverine founds the X-Men.
They could do it. Should they? No!
Bonkers idea: Ursa Major founds the X-Men
Forever liveblogging the AvengersI feel like the route the MCU's going to go with the X-Men and F4 is to try and be as accurate to the source material as possible, to get across a subtle message of "see, this is the REAL X-Men and Fantastic Four, not what stinky Fox did, we're the REAL Marvel!"
Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on May 12th 2021 at 7:17:20 AM
Xavier and Magneto could work as both the Greater-Scope Paragon and the Greater-Scope Villain respectively. Have them be mentioned and have some influence on the plot, but most of the action is saved for their students
Prettiest Meta Knight Gijinka, nglThere's the Brotherhood, the Acolytes, the Mutant Liberation Front, the Hellfire Club
All walks of life
Forever liveblogging the AvengersHonestly I think the coolest route for the X-Men would be to build up the X-Men slowly. Show up individual members of them before re-assembling them in a film. Make it slowly. Cyclops shows up here, Storms there, Wolverine there before they assemble. Basically do the Phase 1 Avengers build-up but with the X-Men.
Imagine a post credits scene just being the trailer for the X-Men movie (like the Avengers trailer was attached to the end of The First Avenger), and the trailer is just a live-action recreation of this:
The roof would come off.
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I wouldn't even paint it mean-spirited. Both properties have suffered from not being translated in the best way to the silver screen, and the MCU will most likely lean on their versions being Truer to the Text while also having their seal of quality. It's clearly what they're doing with FF since it's being directed by Jon Watts, a fairly safe journeyman pick hot off the success of his Spider-Man movies.
With X-Men you don't even have to go has crazy as some of the suggestions here for Xavier and Magneto. The big issue the Fox X-Men had was that they and Logan were the Spotlight-Stealing Squad for the rest of the universe outside of Deadpool. X-Men is fundamentally an Ensemble Cast; just refocus on that and everything else should fall into place.
Edited by Watchtower on May 12th 2021 at 10:57:27 AM
It's less particular stories for me, and more particular parts of the X-Men mythos (or tangentially characters) who haven't been explored in film much. Alpha Flight, actual stories with Shadowcat and Jubilee, the Morlocks, X-Factor, Excalibur, etc.
I've also always thought the Asteroid M story could've made a great film, though perhaps composited into Genosha.
Not a specific story, but I could see Juggernaut and Cyttorak carrying a film about regular people trying to match mutants for power.
Edited by KnownUnknown on May 12th 2021 at 8:16:06 AM
What I'd do is have an older Jean Grey (somewhere in her 40's or 50's) fill the Xavier role of "telepath who puts a team of mutants together". We wouldn't delve into her past much (at least in the first movie), but we'd see she has an old photo of herself with the other Original Five X-Men, all in their classic uniforms, and that she's got the X-Jet sitting in storage collecting dust. Basically, hint that a Broad Strokes version of the X-Men stories most viewers are familiar with has occurred, but that we're jumping in sometime later with a largely different cast of characters.
And I'd also favor introducing X-Men individually in supporting roles before bringing them all together. Have Storm show up in a Black Panther movie. Have Rogue be the villain in a Captain Marvel movie. Have Gambit show up somewhere as someone's underworld contact, and Psylocke as a secret agent who surprise reveals she has powers, too.
"Basically do the Phase 1 Avengers build-up but with the X-Men."
I dont know, X men was always seen as sort of esamble team rather than a "people who team up" like the avengers.
the problem is they are waaaaaay to many mutants and the more it is the worst it become, really all the good x men movies are the one with the least memebers.
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"I mean, it's not impossible. There are a ton of films that handle Ensemble Cast well; not every character needs a fleshed out arc. Isn't Eternals slated to have like a dozen people?
Edited by Synchronicity on May 13th 2021 at 10:38:58 AM
I kind feel like doing X-Men without Professor X would be like a Justice League movie that didn't include Superman, Batman, or Wonder Woman. He's so intriscly tied to the concept in the public conspicuousness that his absence would be highly conspicuous.
You don't necessarily need to go straight to X-Men once mutants are formally introduced in the MCU, and you don't have to make him the main character of any particular movie. But I just don't see how the cost/benefit could favor doing X-Men without including him at all.
It’s time for another round of ideal X Men movie cast that tries not to use people that have been overused before
Forever liveblogging the Avengers

Yeah, I don't know why anyone thinks Shang-Chi is "pandering" to China. Wuxia films are nothing new in the eastern film market.
While I do think the criticism of Simu Liu's looks are extremely harsh and uncalled for, I have to roll my eyes at people expressing "surprise" that it happened. Like, obviously, America has never had ridiculous standards for main actors/actresses in commercial movies.
Dammit, page topper.
Edited by copperglass on May 12th 2021 at 7:07:03 AM