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They have not no. They’ve actually been dead as a whole for the better part of a couple decades with the well know parts of them, being the Celestials and Deviants (though only because Thanos is a deviant and he has since outgrown the property).
Seriously this is beyond just being a casual. The Eternals are......... probably the most minor !Ariel property to get their own movie.
Far more minor than Guardians since at least Guardians had a modern comic run. The Eternals got zilch.
Edited by slimcoder on May 3rd 2021 at 4:02:23 AM
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."They’ve gotten one recently
I looked at the first issue and if it’s supposed to be adjacent to the movie the movie is going to be weird
Forever liveblogging the AvengersSo, are you guys looking forward to Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3?
Edited by gjjones on May 3rd 2021 at 7:11:34 AM
He/His/Him. No matter who you are, always Be Yourself.Yup they only just got a new comic now (first one in over a decade). Already gender-flipped several characters to match the movie actors under the reasoning of “Gods can shape-shift”.
It’s kinda like what was done with the Inhumans but at least the Inhumans while never the most major mixture were always an existing thing. The Eternals is basically just a blip in Marvel history.
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."All I want for the Fantastic Four is a joke about Johnny Storm looking like Captain America.
I sincerely hope that Sersi rejoins the Avengers as part of an ill conceived push
I have a fondness for the jacket era
Forever liveblogging the AvengersI forget, did Kirby ever get to tell that "end of the gods" story he wanted to do? I know he tried it with Thor and later the New Gods, but Marvel and DC told him no because the characters were too profitable to them.
Did he get to try the idea again later and tell it without somebody trying to stop him?
Edited by chasemaddigan on May 3rd 2021 at 7:38:31 AM
Due to cut corners, the four astronauts are bombarded with cosmic radiation and the spaceship they are on crash lands. Soon, the Fantastic Four are born. The main villain for the film is Mole Man, who tries to attack various nuclear facilities and cities. The post-credits scene would hint in the existence of Galactus in the MCU.
While I would handle some other stuff you mentioned differently, I am all-in on the first main villain of the F4 movie being Mole Man. It's mostly because he's the iconic main antagonist of their very first comic, to the point that multiple F4 tv shows have directly referenced that exact comic in various episodes. Plus, he rules an underground city and commands kaiju, so he's not lacking in threat level for a main villain. Save Doom for the sequel, it's what he deserves.
I'd be down for a FF film that begins In Medias Res with them exploring the Mole Man situation with their powers already in hand. Or if it's not Mole Man and is a space enemy, tweak their origin to have their powers happen through the plot they're already delving through rather than be its own chunk of the film.
First and foremost, the FF movie needs to remember what all the other ones forgot: that the FF are at their best when they're explorers, not standard superheroes. It needs to be an adventure movie, not a superhero origin movie.
Edited by KnownUnknown on May 3rd 2021 at 4:44:01 AM
My suggestion was actually Red Ghost (AND HIS SUPER-APES!), with Mole-Man as the chief antagonist of the sequel. Doom would be introduced the post-credits scene of film one, be a secondary character in movie 2 (maybe even as a false ally to the heroes who wins in the end), and take the center stage in movie three.
"All you Fascists bound to lose."Whoo.
Had stuff to do today, so I'm pretty far behind on this stuff.
Long story short, lets do this!
Yeah! Every movie! I'm there....even if there is home. I still ain't got my damn shot yet.
One Strip! One Strip!They should condense the FF’s origin down into a promotional cheesy cartoon that plays at like an FF museum or something
Pan out to Ben looking mortified
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I posted a pitch a few times here (that I probably still have saved somewhere) with their origin condensed as a cheesy 60's cartoon they're watching in space and the whole film is essentially Lost in Space (with this version of the space anomaly that gave them their powers chucking them off through time and space) and the whole plot is them racing their Soviet counterpart Red Ghost (AND HIS SUPER-APES!) to make their way home (of course, Red Ghost is actually a good guy this time and sacrifices himself to let the F4 return home).
Edited by Gaon on May 3rd 2021 at 4:50:45 AM
"All you Fascists bound to lose."TBH, what I would do is just have them already in space, already have powers, and already underway in the midst of the rest of their adventure. Have some well delivered exposition in the dialogue that indicates how they got there and had those powers, with perhaps brief flashbacks to the incident (for instance, one of them - let's say Ben - has nightmares about it that persist throughout the film), so on and so forth.
Edited by KnownUnknown on May 3rd 2021 at 4:55:15 AM
I did wonder if they would go the Spider-Man route and assume everyone knows the FF's origin by now because of the multiple movie attempts (although one of those second reboots was much better and more successful than the other) and just have 'em as Experienced Protagonist.
but yeah.
Edited by Synchronicity on May 3rd 2021 at 6:56:50 AM
I really think we need to see a good origin story for the F4, since the previous two attempts didn't really do it right. The first one didn't really make them intrepid explorers, they were just going to space like normal astronauts, and the second one had the intrepid explorers part right but interdimensional travel really doesn't fit the iconography or themes. I think just showing their backstory in the 60s is the best call, and include Doom as Reed's college roommate who hates him.
As for the time issue, they could make them just eternally in the 60s, but that's no fun. Maybe instead of cosmic rays, their ship goes through a portal that transports them into the future, and that's what gives them powers?
The more that the origin is focused on the more it sort of sidelines the team being the fantastic four is my thought
The first actually released movie had them spend half the movie adjusting to their powers and hanging out in a lab
Fan Four Stick had Reed estranged from the others for a large chunk
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Anyways, let's talk about the future appearance of the Fantastic Four and how should they be introduced.
This is my hypothetical pitch for a MCU Fantastic Four:
The story is basically a superhero Period Piece set in the 1960s, the time period where the Space Race is still in the minds of the public and tensions between the United States and the Soviet Union are running high as the Cuban Missile Crisis approaches.
NASA sponsors scientist and genius Reed Richards to construct a spaceship capable of bringing a man to the Moon in a highly classified mission. Reed enlists Ben Grimm, Sue Storm and Johnny Storm to become astronauts on the mission. Supporting the mission is Victor von Doom, who supplies spaceflight technology for the mission.
Due to cut corners, the four astronauts are bombarded with cosmic radiation and the spaceship they are on crash lands. Soon, the Fantastic Four are born. The main villain for the film is Mole Man, who tries to attack various nuclear facilities and cities. The post-credits scene would hint in the existence of Galactus in the MCU.