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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
All I recall Jamie Foxx saying is that he wouldn't be blue this time, which granted is a strike against this being ASM2 Electro.
Edited by lbssb on May 3rd 2021 at 10:20:36 AM
Disney100 Marathon | DreamWorks MarathonYeah, I've been worried about this. Mostly because as a Star Wars fan, I've seen the worst case scenario of how the backlash of this can be.
It's a bit convoluted IMO...
I mean, from what I skimmed from Molina's interview, it heavily sounds like he's Raimi!Doc Ock? If I'm honest, as legendary as Molina might've been (never got around to watching Raimi's Spider-Man 2), I kinda would've preferred a fully rebooted Ock? Like, new actor and everything? I remember Mark Hamill liked a tweet suggesting he be MCU!Ock, so he could've been a good place to start.
I still wonder how Deadpool will squeeze his way into the MCU... I'm banking on him getting tangled up with the TVA, but...
All Deadpool needs to do is just show up via Rule of Funny. No one's really gonna question it.
Edited by lbssb on May 3rd 2021 at 10:32:43 AM
Disney100 Marathon | DreamWorks MarathonPeople are so impatient to see the X-Men in the MCU, it feels like they're expecting every new MCU project to completely derail its own plot to introduce the multiverse and Wolverine.
Frankly, I've had enough X-Men. I don't want to see any mutants at all until I watch the first movie or tv show 100% about them. The Fox property I want to see most is Fantastic 4, and I still don't want to see hide nor hair about them until they're directly teasing the F4 movie.
That was a full on Troll move. Lol
"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."Like I said, what if everything we've heard about No Way Home is just a Casting Gag like that?
Then again, the fakeout isn't likely to make any impact if done a second time in a row in the same year. And considering how badly received the Mandarin fakeout actually was...
Prettiest Meta Knight Gijinka, nglHow badly WAS it received among mainstream audiences?
Iron Man 3 made over a billion dollars and has a 79% on the tomatoes
What bothers the nerdy niche doesn’t faze everyone
Forever liveblogging the AvengersBad enough that a short was released shortly after that shows there's a real Mandarin?
It also wasn't helped by the fact that it was practically a last minute rewrite that reduced Tony's entire clash with the Ten Rings to a one-sided grudge from a guy he ignored at the party.
Yeah... Not badly received, people loved that twist enough that no Author's Saving Throw was made after.
And films aren't black and white pieces that get torn down for one mistake. A film can be good and still have a plot point/twist bashed and ridiculed
Problem here is that you think = "Badly Received Plot Twist = Bad, Bad Flop" which is hilariously wrong. You treat criticism of anything as an absolute that sinks films forever all the time for that one mistake when that rarely happens at all.
Edited by VengefulBale on May 3rd 2021 at 2:03:26 PM
Prettiest Meta Knight Gijinka, nglIt wasn't impacting on the film's performance but Marvel sustains itself by a strong word-of-mouth online response and fandom. The way to cultivate that is keeping a watchful eye on Online discourse and at least consider readjusting things to address (not solve it, mind you, but address it) it if it gets big enough, which they do. The Mandarin twist didn't damage the film's performance but it was pretty big in Online discourse, so Marvel was just clever about it and opened a backdoor.
"All you Fascists bound to lose."![]()
Of course, now there’s a vocal minority(?) among the Chinese audience complaining about the Mandarin being an offensive Yellow Peril character.
No matter what you do, sometimes you can’t win.
Edited by NTG on May 3rd 2021 at 12:05:00 PM
There was nothing wrong with how Quicksilver was handled in Wandavision. They literally say right after he shows up "she re-cast Pietro?". It's very clear that Wanda took some random man, brainwashed him to think he's Pietro, and gave him superspeed. It's only later we learn that Agatha was actually responsible for that, and it is NEVER suggested even once that he's actually the Fox-Men Quicksilver taken from another universe.
I have only slight gripes with it, but honestly unlike the Mandarin it was actually planned from the start so it's got a lot more points in its favor than that one
Prettiest Meta Knight Gijinka, ngl![]()
Agreed. While the name joke was groanworthy, the backlash was more fans setting themselves up than Marvel dropping the ball on what was ultimately a pretty good Casting Gag.
Edited by KnownUnknown on May 3rd 2021 at 12:18:51 PM
Iron Man 3 had a different director from the one in the first and second film film. Not at all "planned" when there's an entirely different guy in the director's seat. It was planned since IM 3 changed directors, but overall in the MCU it definitely wasn't
Edited by VengefulBale on May 3rd 2021 at 2:22:05 PM
Prettiest Meta Knight Gijinka, nglWell that’s the difference planning for a series and planning for a movie
Forever liveblogging the AvengersDirectors don't typically make huge story decisions like that, not unless they're also a producer. Major re-writes like you're suggesting happened are the duty of Producers and the Writers, and all we've heard of IM3 was that she was originally going to be the true Big Bad until Jeph Loeb vetoed having a female main villain.
Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on May 3rd 2021 at 12:30:19 PM

What bugs the shit out of me isn't the multiverse concept itself, it's how it's used by a certain Vocal Minority of fans. It's not just having a multiverse, it's using it to pitch Sam Raimi's Spider-Man 4 starring Tobey Maguire or to backdoor the Fox X-Men into canon so that Evan Peters can cross over as Quicksilver.
It's really sour, borderline toxic fan discussion and speculation to the point where I sorta dread Marvel deciding to placate that side of the fandom. Especially with all the Bohner noise, like you'd think people have never heard of Red Herrings before or something.