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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#127426: Apr 30th 2021 at 9:20:22 AM

Though the comics Homelander turned out to be a surprisingly sympathetic take on Evil Superman in the end since a big part of his fall was due to being gaslit by Black Noir.

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Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#127427: Apr 30th 2021 at 9:28:50 AM

I actually think Sentry stands a fair bit on his own. "Superman but actually he has split personality, fragile mental health and his other personality is the actual biblical plague Moses called on the firstborn" is so far removed from Superman it's kind of irrelevant by now.

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#127428: Apr 30th 2021 at 9:31:59 AM

[up][up]Hes also at times really sad at times in the show as he's clearly emotionally stunted in the show due to his upbringing.

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Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#127429: Apr 30th 2021 at 9:42:02 AM

[up][up]

I was not familiar with that being the explanation for the Void. That does seem to me to sort of be Superman influenced, in the sense of drawing upon the Jewish influences for Superman, but making them an evil aspect of the character.

I do happen to like with both Sentry and the villain Mr. Negative how the evil split personality exists because the good personality is also fake, and the characters are deeply/willfully in denial about who they are.

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#127430: Apr 30th 2021 at 10:53:17 AM

The Angel of Death thing tbf was just something Norman Osborne believed. And he was in the middle of a Villainous Breakdown when he claimed it.

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ClancyGardener life is a state of mind from 53 miles west of Venus Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
#127431: Apr 30th 2021 at 11:05:01 AM

I'm not sure the MCU would try featuring characters who are parodies of DCU characters, as it could be seen as too mean-spirited.

I wonder if it would be less or more mean-spirited if the Squadron Supreme were parodies of the DCEU continuity specifically, considering that the DCEU is both the MCU's main competition and also much less popular due to being too grimdark.

Maybe if there was some commentary about how the Squadron used to be these great heroes that everyone looked up to, and then fell from greatness when they lost sight over who they were supposed to be.

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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#127432: Apr 30th 2021 at 11:21:21 AM

It would be about as well done as Action Comics 775.

As in, not very well.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#127433: Apr 30th 2021 at 11:50:41 AM

If we bring in Sentry we really need to bring back Hulk's ultimate level of strength.

Cause I'm not sure if Thor and Carol would be able to handle him.

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#127434: Apr 30th 2021 at 1:14:15 PM

Killian Scott from Dublin Murders and Damnation is joining Secret Invasion in another undisclosed role.

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Apr 30th 2021 at 1:16:58 AM

Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#127435: Apr 30th 2021 at 1:55:44 PM

No Sentry please. God, I hated that Creator's Pet.

He only worked within his original Mini Series, and even there he wasn't something to write home about.

Bendis bringing him into the regular verse was one of the worst creative decisions of the early 2000s.

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#127436: Apr 30th 2021 at 2:01:16 PM

Tbf it's bendis. The man is terrible at handing non-street level heroes and villains (see Gansgta Doom for one).

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#127437: Apr 30th 2021 at 2:03:24 PM

Dread from him,run from him,The Sentry arrives

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#127438: Apr 30th 2021 at 2:08:08 PM

Hopefully Knull finished him off for good

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#127439: Apr 30th 2021 at 2:22:58 PM

How Knull killed him off was hilarious.

Tore him in half, the same way he did to Ares and Carnage. [lol]

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Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
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#127440: Apr 30th 2021 at 2:27:02 PM

Didn't know he was dead again. Not following the comics for a few years now.

But eh, what does death even mean in comics, for A-Listers. He came back from being incinerated inside the sun, he'll come back from this one too, once a writer decides so.

That's one of the things I prefer about adaptations, while occasional resurrections are a thing there too, death at least carries meaning.

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#127441: Apr 30th 2021 at 2:37:49 PM

Why would being incinerated in a sun even kill him. He’s got the power of a billion exploding stars or something hyperbolic like that

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Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#127442: Apr 30th 2021 at 2:41:57 PM

Never mind that each attack of him would've blown up the entire Galaxy if that were true, lol.

But comics have never really been known for their consistency.

Edited by Forenperser on Apr 30th 2021 at 11:42:06 AM

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#127443: Apr 30th 2021 at 2:42:59 PM

World of cardboard or whatever

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#127444: Apr 30th 2021 at 2:43:49 PM

Well yeah when you got various people writing it of course it varies.

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#127445: Apr 30th 2021 at 2:44:26 PM

World of Chewed Paper.

World of Soaked Socks.

World of Soggy Pizza.

Why are they all wet?

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#127446: Apr 30th 2021 at 2:47:10 PM

You try to retain consistency when soggy

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Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#127447: Apr 30th 2021 at 2:49:23 PM

Nah, if Marvel really has to adapt one of their Superman plastiches, please give us Blue Marvel.

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Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#127448: Apr 30th 2021 at 4:20:05 PM

The only thing I would want them to adapt of the Sentry is Age of the Sentry as a What If? episode. Just go full-on and have fun with the Silver Age mockery and Superdickery and see what Uatu has to say.

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#127449: Apr 30th 2021 at 5:43:28 PM

squirrel girl

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#127450: Apr 30th 2021 at 7:32:23 PM

They could always use Hyperion if the wanted to use an Evil Superman.


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