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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#125876: Mar 8th 2021 at 3:37:36 PM

Agatha All Along also displays abilities that overlap with that sort of thing

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Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#125877: Mar 8th 2021 at 4:22:24 PM

edit: Nevermind, i misunderstood.

Edited by Cortez on Mar 8th 2021 at 11:31:10 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#125878: Mar 8th 2021 at 4:52:04 PM

The kind-hearted weakling who provides the heart of the team who does grow into more of a courageous badass as the story progresses.

Edited by slimcoder on Mar 9th 2021 at 1:29:48 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#125879: Mar 8th 2021 at 5:03:37 PM

Better than being a crazy psychopath.

VengefulBale Bishie Gijinka Meta Knight from Nowhere Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Bishie Gijinka Meta Knight
#125880: Mar 8th 2021 at 5:11:19 PM

Indeed. He actually made a good contrast to Hulk in terms of personality

Prettiest Meta Knight Gijinka, ngl
eligram Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: In denial
#125881: Mar 8th 2021 at 5:22:17 PM

So, if we had gotten a Hulk trilogy, how it would have ended and what comic would they've used for adaptation.

The second is easy as they already were setting Maestro, but the third what could've been? Planet Hulk or Red Hulk? And when they would've introduced She-Hulk?

chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#125882: Mar 8th 2021 at 5:37:53 PM

Wait, what hints were there that they were setting up Maestro?

A lot of people saw hints for a potential Planet Hulk adaptation, but not so much one for Future Imperfect.

eligram Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: In denial
#125883: Mar 8th 2021 at 5:40:05 PM

Crap, misremenbered up the name, I meant Leader.

EmeraldEmperor Lies and Violence! Since: Oct, 2020
Lies and Violence!
#125884: Mar 8th 2021 at 6:03:35 PM

Well, since you already said it, third one could've been Maestro. Maybe blend in elements of WWH, keeping Planet Hulk as part of Ragnarok.

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#125885: Mar 8th 2021 at 7:26:19 PM

Better than being a crazy psychopath.

That's oversimplifying it. He just took Hulk's "never stop making them pay" line to heart.

I did like that the animated film ended with Hulk still in Sakaar and happy.

Edited by Cortez on Mar 8th 2021 at 11:33:43 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#125886: Mar 8th 2021 at 7:28:01 PM

Oh fuck I thought you were talking about the Animated Planet Hulk movie......

Did not realize you were talking about Ragnarok, my bad dude.

Yeah MCU-Miek pretty much has no personality.

Edited by slimcoder on Mar 8th 2021 at 7:28:33 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
VengefulBale Bishie Gijinka Meta Knight from Nowhere Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Bishie Gijinka Meta Knight
#125887: Mar 8th 2021 at 7:38:31 PM

It's a shame because Korg did get a pretty funny one, but Miek's... There, I guess

Prettiest Meta Knight Gijinka, ngl
C105 Too old for this from France Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Too old for this
#125888: Mar 9th 2021 at 1:28:31 AM

Being The Unintelligible did not help either.

Whatever your favourite work is, there is a Vocal Minority that considers it the Worst. Whatever. Ever!.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#125889: Mar 9th 2021 at 1:44:14 AM

Ya know I like Ragnarok but it is pretty annoying that the Warbound got really cut down, simplified, and became Thor's friends instead of Hulk's.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#125890: Mar 9th 2021 at 9:57:08 AM

New TV spot.

I can tell I'm gonna love the chemistry between these two.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#125891: Mar 9th 2021 at 10:01:18 AM

[up]So when Thanos wears his helmet he’s a wizard and when he doesn’t he’s a sorcerer?

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Mar 9th 2021 at 10:01:33 AM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#125892: Mar 9th 2021 at 10:01:47 AM

“A sorcerer is a wizard without a hat” -Bucky has look like feather meme guy- hah

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MorningStar1337 The Encounter that ended the Dogma from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
The Encounter that ended the Dogma
#125893: Mar 9th 2021 at 10:13:41 AM

There's two "main" routes to introducing mutants: a mass-empowering event that introduces a massive world wide population or the "actually theres a small group that were here all along hiding."

If the former, the chance to use the Blip has pretty much gone, but we do have the Eternals who could feasibly cause it. If the latter then arguably Thanos' attack could be what convinced MCU!Xavier that a team of mutant heroes would be a good idea.

I mean there is the possibility there could be both at once. the blip is sued as a means to add the X gene and the mutants would then not be involved with Thanos because they either dodn't want to be heroes or are laying low to get a grasp on their powers and avoid a Westville scenario that would surely out them.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#125895: Mar 9th 2021 at 10:22:53 AM

The X-Men often have a bit that there were always mutants but the nuclear developments of the 20th century shot their numbers upwards to a radical extent (hence the classic "Children of the Atom" moniker). You could use that in the MCU with The Snap/Blip (and general use of the Infinity Stones on earth) being the inciting incidents for their sharp increase in numbers.

It even adds up because at least one Infinity Stone saw extensive use in WWII (the Space Stone with Red Skull), roughly matching up the "age of the atom" gimmick and you could even extrapolate that logic to the mutants in general given that Infinity Stones have been used on Earth since ancient times with Odin (with the very same Space Stone) and possibly the Dark Elves (Reality Stone) during their protracted war with Asgard so that could be the origin of ancient mutants.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#125897: Mar 9th 2021 at 12:10:38 PM

Wait have the Avengers even fought a wizard?

Like they fought Ultron and they fought Thanos’ army who are an androids and aliens, but what wizard have they fought?

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#125898: Mar 9th 2021 at 12:11:52 PM

Offscreen Mordo stole Falcon's taxi and he's still holding a grudge

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Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#125899: Mar 9th 2021 at 12:12:10 PM

Too bad they didn't play up Loki's magical side more. And Thanos' forces had a wizard.

Wake me up at your own risk.
Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#125900: Mar 9th 2021 at 12:24:42 PM

Loki is explicitly a magic-user in this, so it presumably refers to him. He's just a god wizard.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."

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