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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

C105 Too old for this from France Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#125151: Feb 19th 2021 at 9:02:52 AM

We've finally reached that point of full balls to the wall superhero action straight out of the comic books with little toned down for realism.

During the 2019 Christmas holidays I decided to rewatch all the MCU movies from the beginning. It was quite strange to rediscover Iron Man 1 and 2, which do their best to make it feel as if they could almost be happening in our universe, after having watched Endgame and Captain Marvel.

Edited by C105 on Feb 19th 2021 at 6:04:18 PM

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#125152: Feb 19th 2021 at 12:54:40 PM

Dr. Strange, Iron Man and Spidey vs Ebony Maw is by far my favorite fight in the MCU, because it's a great example of how interesting it is when characters with very different powersets interact. It's totally the kind of thing the MCU should have more of.

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#125153: Feb 19th 2021 at 1:00:43 PM

I mean, the Battle on Titan had a lot of that as well.

Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
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#125154: Feb 19th 2021 at 1:06:17 PM

Every fight in Infinity War was great, honestly.

The Battle in Endgame was ok too, but it was just too big, with too little focus on individual characters and their abilities.

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#125155: Feb 19th 2021 at 1:10:43 PM

Cap mix matching his shield and Mjolnir was pretty good

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Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
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#125156: Feb 19th 2021 at 1:12:00 PM

Well yeah, the Big 3 had their big moment when fighting against Thanos, that was pretty epic, but many other characters where mostly background.

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C105 Too old for this from France Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#125157: Feb 19th 2021 at 2:27:10 PM

The big fight in Endgame requires watching multiple times, with occasional freeze frames, to be able to appreciate in all its glory. There is so much happening at once that it is hard to not only notice it on the first go, but also remember it (or maybe it is just me).

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#125158: Feb 19th 2021 at 2:29:41 PM

It’s like a live action George Perez massive fight scene

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#125159: Feb 19th 2021 at 2:31:16 PM

It took me several watches before I noticed that yes, Mantis actually does do something (she subdues one of the berserkers by putting it to sleep).

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#125160: Feb 19th 2021 at 2:35:55 PM

[up][up] It really is an event movie.

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Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#125161: Feb 19th 2021 at 2:54:23 PM

I love the endgame fight scene but it has a bit of a problem with colors. The damp orange sunset lighting on the ashen-grey/dirty brown battlefield makes things blend between themselves (particularly Thanos's army, which is more or less the same color as the dirt surrounding them) so it does indeed require a lot of reviewing to properly take in.

The individual moments are usually fine enough (particularly with heroes with distinctive color schemes like the big three), but the wide shots can be tricky.

Personally the Battle in Titan is still my favorite of larger showdowns and variety of powers at hand.

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#125162: Feb 19th 2021 at 2:56:34 PM

Me: I wish Youtube would stop sending me spoilers for movies while the movie's still out.

Youtube: So 2 years after the movie, got it.

Aleistar Since: Feb, 2018 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
#125163: Feb 19th 2021 at 3:04:31 PM

Random thought of the day: if you could cast Henry Cavill in any Marvel role, what role would it be?

Thee obvious answer is Hyperion, but I don't think Feige would want to adapt the Squadron Supreme. As an (anti) hero, he could make a good Namor or Punisher. As a villain, I think he could make for an interesting Doctor Doom or Mister Sinister.

Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
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#125164: Feb 19th 2021 at 3:14:04 PM

I think he could be a good Cyclops, honestly.

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C105 Too old for this from France Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#125165: Feb 19th 2021 at 3:28:14 PM

I agree he would do a fine Namor.

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#125166: Feb 19th 2021 at 4:31:09 PM

I like the Asian Namor push, personally.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#125167: Feb 19th 2021 at 4:40:47 PM

Agreed, it's a careful needle to thread and avoid Yellow Peril implications but there's instances of Namor explicitly stating that he does not consider himself a white European. Personally I wouldn't mind a Desi Namor too.

Edited by AlleyOop on Feb 19th 2021 at 7:41:11 AM

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#125168: Feb 19th 2021 at 4:45:37 PM

I've said this before but since DC got there first with the Aquaman movie its going to be hard selling movie audiences on a similar themed superhero movie

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Aleistar Since: Feb, 2018 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
#125169: Feb 19th 2021 at 4:49:33 PM

[up]x2 Huh. I did not know that, but it does make sense with what I do know about his character.

I mean, I'm not an expert on either character, but Namor and Aquaman are ussually characterized very differently. Like, Namor can toe the hero/villian/anti-hero line in a way that Aquaman can't.

Edited by Aleistar on Feb 19th 2021 at 7:49:46 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#125170: Feb 19th 2021 at 4:54:37 PM

Namor is a gigantic piece of shit.

He's also terrible with women, just ask Sue Storm who's had to fend off his advancements for the entirety of the time they've known each other.

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#125171: Feb 19th 2021 at 5:02:22 PM

Namor is possibly half Scottish based on his last name

But who can say

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#125172: Feb 19th 2021 at 5:08:56 PM

> He's also terrible with women, just ask Sue Storm who's had to fend off his advancements for the entirety of the time they've known each other.

I'd have no issue with not having that particular characterization,if that makes him less and unlikeable and more Aquaman lite so be it

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#125173: Feb 19th 2021 at 5:09:27 PM

He's also terrible with women, just ask Sue Storm who's had to fend off his advancements for the entirety of the time they've known each other.

It worked with her, though.

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HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#125174: Feb 19th 2021 at 5:26:03 PM

I stand with Cyclops Cavill, personally.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#125175: Feb 19th 2021 at 5:27:17 PM

[up][up] Any Sue Storm who accepts Namor's advances is a trash person.

Seriously Namor is the bottom of the bin kind of guy you only go out with if you are left with no other option.

Like Sue in Spider-Man: Life Story, left Reed for the absolute worst person she could pick. Even Doom is a better option.

Edited by slimcoder on Feb 19th 2021 at 5:28:55 AM

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