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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
I have to say I don't quite understand why people want Killmonger to be back so much. Sure, he was an interesting villain, but I really don't see him becoming Black Panther without either drastic changes to his character, or ending with a Nominal Hero Black Panther.
It's too bad that Shuri's actress had to become so controversial. I would have welcomed another MCU film with a female lead. There have not been that many of them so far...
Whatever your favourite work is, there is a Vocal Minority that considers it the Worst. Whatever. Ever!.He was one of the better MCU villains. He and Hela are opposite postcolonial villains and that was great. But not all good villains "deserve" a redemption arc.
Could still happen; maybe she took an entire immunology class online in the last two months and walked back on those views. (Or she saw what happened to Gina Carano and does things differently.)
Shuri as Black Panther doesn't make much sense to me other than her being royal blood. She's an inventor, not an athlete.
Nakia or Okoye make more sense skillset-wise, though they'd have to do something like have the title of Black Panther now be an appointed position instead of a birthright.
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Yes it's movie synergy but IMO it's better for the character because pre-MCU Shuri could be needlessly cruel, like when she told the Dora Milaje in A Nation Under Our Feet to buzz off and die just because they wanted a system of accountability to deal with cases of sexual harassment.
Now she has fun science adventures with the Marvel Rising kids and we never have to think about that old stuff again.
Edited by Tuckerscreator on Feb 16th 2021 at 3:13:49 AM
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Yeah but still its not exactly organic character growth.
Shuri an adult woman goes from ruthless traditionalist, to spiritual shaman, to apparently de-aging a couple years so she can be a quirky fun scientist.
Its basically how Star-Lord went from rugged space-marine veteran to man-child puckish rogue and even that has a somewhat logical explanation if you go by the theory that Star-Lord's regression is an attempt at him coping with the constant trauma he's experienced all his life, especially his death in the Cancerverse.
Edited by slimcoder on Feb 16th 2021 at 3:27:33 AM
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."You could handwave something similar for Shuri since the changes happened after she died in Time Runs Out.
Forever liveblogging the AvengersAlright that makes enough sense.
Huh to my recollection, I think Shuri being a genius inventor is a decomposite character trait of comics T'Challa who is already a genius inventor and scientist, to the degree he was a member of the Ultimates, a team of heroes with near Godlike power and intellect despite being the only human on the group.
Edited by slimcoder on Feb 16th 2021 at 3:35:23 AM
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."As for how movie Shuri will do as Panther, I assume we're going to get a "Shuri tries to be Panther the way T'Challa does, but learns An Aesop about how she can never be him and can only be Panther her own way." Leading into a more tech-based, Guile Hero Panther incarnation.
Which is an aesop in Far From Home (sorta), but still - it fits the situation well. A better comparison would be, almost exactly, Tim Drake's character development as Robin.
Plus the whole concept of a Challenge Day suggests that anyone, if they be mighty enough, can become ruler of Wakanda and Black Panther, not just those in a direct bloodline.
That being said, I'll be surprised if they don't just give us Shuri as the Black Panther. Joe Q Public most likely hasn't even heard of her Twitter remarks, and wouldn't care in any event. And while Shuri has mostly been depicted as a scientist, her training to be a warrior (especially aided by the Heart Shaped Herb) wouldn't be the wildest thing to develop in the MCU.
As is, she nearly beat Killmonger all by herself. Whereas T'Challa exemplified martial prowess augmented by a few technological tricks, Shuri would just go in the other direction.
Killmonger could easly become the next loki, specially since loki is dead as far movieverse is concern, he is pitable but disgusting enough to be entrating.
And quite frankly, I didnt want him to die, I want him to live to see how wrong he was and how better thing could be, also to punch him in the face everynow and them, which is what make him so intersting.
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"

Yeah, of all the possible scenarios, bringing back Killmonger would be a really bad call.
On a similar note, I recall reading an (initial?) train of speculation was that Black Panther II could be set during the five year time skip that happened between Infinity War and Endgame (which would make sense since T'Challa was Snap'd during that time) and then we'd have a recasting by BP3 when enough time has passed, but given Marvel's explicit decision to not recast and some rumors regarding how they might go for an original character, I highly doubt this will be happening.
(FYI, I'm of the mind that while retiring T'Challa altogether does make things harder for the BP franchise to move forward, the decision was made to honor Boseman's contribution. As such, the "retiring the character" scenario is ultimately the greater good.)
Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Feb 16th 2021 at 9:44:48 AM