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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#125026: Feb 11th 2021 at 8:53:12 AM

If we get an implacable man tearing a bloody swathe through the scum of the world, I want Ghost Rider well before I ever want to see Punisher.

jjjj2 from Arrakis Since: Jul, 2015
#125027: Feb 11th 2021 at 8:54:07 AM

Yeah I was confused by that, the punisher is in the MCU, he's just in the netflix part which might as well not be, since it seemed to be one way at the time.

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Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#125028: Feb 11th 2021 at 8:54:38 AM

[up][up]It would be interesting to see if we could get a proper Marvel Studios Ghost Rider instead of Agents of SHIELD or Marvel Television. Hell, if they stick with Robbie Reyes being the main Rider, they could probably find a way to sneak in Nic Cage as Johnny Blaze.

Edited by Beatman1 on Feb 11th 2021 at 11:54:51 AM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#125029: Feb 11th 2021 at 8:56:31 AM

I’d love if they could bring Gabriel Luna back as Robbie Reyes

He killed at that role

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Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#125030: Feb 11th 2021 at 9:00:12 AM

Itd be a good time for it if they do pull out Mephisto for one of these projects.

jouXIII The One Who Knows Many Things from Between the Multiverses (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
The One Who Knows Many Things
#125031: Feb 11th 2021 at 9:20:19 AM

C'mon, guys. You're obviously not getting it.

Someone called "Punisher" shouldn't kill people with guns, rockets or something like that.

Punisher should kill people with the most terrible, horrifying method mankind knows...

...with puns.

"You know, those kids that you just sold drugs were Star Wars-fans. I guess that makes you the Drug Lord of the Speed."

I mean, it's in the name: Punisher.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#125032: Feb 11th 2021 at 9:22:22 AM

By Jove you’ve cracked this case wide open

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Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#125033: Feb 11th 2021 at 9:29:36 AM

I have actually been ascribed the title of "Pun-isher" in a discord on that same play of words.

Si Vis Pacem, Para Iocus.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#125034: Feb 11th 2021 at 9:41:27 AM

I want Johnny Blaze, not Robby Reyes.

Ghost Rider is supposed to have a bike, not a car.

Call me old-fashioned if you like tongue

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BOOXMOWO Since: Mar, 2013
#125035: Feb 11th 2021 at 9:56:24 AM

Ghost Rider should have rollerskates.

C105 Too old for this from France Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Too old for this
#125036: Feb 11th 2021 at 10:02:12 AM

[up]x5 This looks a lot like something Deadpool would come up with.

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#125037: Feb 11th 2021 at 10:04:42 AM

Ghost Rider's name is inaccurate; he should be riding ghosts. tongue

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#125038: Feb 11th 2021 at 10:05:56 AM

I dunno. I've see some imagery with the car that makes me think it's actually better suited for the screen than the bike. Stuff like Robbie walking through the windshield, submerged in the hood. Its striking imagery.

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#125039: Feb 11th 2021 at 10:07:00 AM

They could of course just do Danny Ketch. He is strangely the one Ghost Rider member (between the Blaze, Ketch and Reyes Power Trio) to not be properly used in live-action despite being arguably the most iconic Ghost Rider (most of what people associate with GR, like the chain, jacket and the Penance Stare, originated in Ketch's tenure).

It's a sort of Barry Allen/Wally West situation where Barry/Blaze is often used in adaptations and newer comics infused with the iconic traits of West/Ketch to beef up the character (although Marvel has been significantly better at balancing Blaze and Ketch than DC with Barry and Wally).

I think it'd be solid to have Danny Ketch in the MCU and Blaze as the predecessor Rider allá what they did with Hank Pym. Eventually have a movie/season with both teaming up like in the Aaron run.

PS: I also much prefer Ghost Rider on a bike and the imagery of biker culture associated with the character than hot rod cars. Partly, of course, because the Brazilian name of the character is roughly Ghost Biker (the word Rider doesn't exist in Portuguese).

Edited by Gaon on Feb 11th 2021 at 10:08:13 AM

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Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#125040: Feb 11th 2021 at 10:08:18 AM

He’s a rider that happens to be a ghost so it’s accurate enough.

The legend has returned.
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#125041: Feb 11th 2021 at 10:08:30 AM

Would like a Ghost Riders film tbh. Why not have all three facing off against someone big like Mephisto or Zadkiel.

Edited by miraculous on Feb 11th 2021 at 10:08:44 AM

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Nightwire Since: Feb, 2010
#125042: Feb 11th 2021 at 10:11:15 AM

Ghost Rider, not to be confused with Richard Rider.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#125043: Feb 11th 2021 at 10:18:34 AM

Pssh bikes

The original ghost rider rode a horse

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Nightwire Since: Feb, 2010
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#125047: Feb 11th 2021 at 10:24:44 AM

Damn, you got me

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jjjj2 from Arrakis Since: Jul, 2015
#125048: Feb 11th 2021 at 10:25:18 AM

"You know, those kids that you just sold drugs were Star Wars-fans. I guess that makes you the Drug Lord of the Speed."

I mean, it's in the name: Punisher.

I hate you so much right now, but I'm laughing so I guess it's worth it.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#125049: Feb 11th 2021 at 10:35:00 AM

[up][up][up]

Huh. I would have guessed the first would ride a horse, but a mammoth is pretty cool.

So I suppose you could be a ghost rider if you just had another human piggybacking you as well huh.

One Strip! One Strip!
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#125050: Feb 11th 2021 at 10:45:24 AM

Yes

Anyway, the first published Ghost Rider rode a horse and was a western hero that didn’t really have anything to do with the modern Ghost Rider concept, probably why he was eventually renamed Phantom Rider

The current first chronological ghost rider rode a flaming mammoth and is from the avengers 1000000 BC stuff. For some reason he feels like he had mortal kombat energy to him. Maybe the lack of shirt

Edited by Bocaj on Feb 11th 2021 at 1:46:05 PM

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