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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
We honestly live in such a sensitive world, that if they decide to turn a violent antihero like Frank Castle into a black person, a lot of people will complain that he is an "offensive stereotype" to black people.
Ironically, those who complain about it will be white people, while black persons would do not care or even will love the character.
Edited by JoLuRo075 on Feb 11th 2021 at 6:27:12 AM
There are things you can do with the character, but a lot of them get away from the Ennis “Numba 1 Bestest Ever Badass Normal who hunts all criminals” they will inevitably cause controversy. The Netflix show got complaints for this, the constant battle between Frank Castle, a guy who wanted to just sink into the background and never be bothered again, and the Punisher, an ideal of vengeance, when if it was a pure Ennis interpretation, Frank Castle would never have a say. So make of that what you will.
Guy who kills racists because his family was killed by them is Nighthawk from the supreme power universe
There was a black punisher spin-off guy but he used non lethal instead of killing everyone
Forever liveblogging the Avengers> There was a black punisher spin-off guy but he used non lethal instead of killing everyone
How do you non lethally punish criminals exactly? Stare them surrendering?
have a listen and have a link to my discord serverThat’s a weird question considering every other superhero in the entire world manages to punish criminals without killing them
But Nigel Higgins used non-lethal ordinance because he came to realize that going around killing people was pretty messed up
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Edited by Bocaj on Feb 11th 2021 at 10:19:31 AM
Forever liveblogging the AvengersDeadpool has no problem killing people. Even Hawkeye did it for a bit. If Punisher comes into the MCU and uses non-lethal methods, that would completely neuter the character concept.
Edited by Fighteer on Feb 11th 2021 at 10:54:17 AM
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"Considering the shadow realms that exist in marvel that might be worse
Forever liveblogging the AvengersThat someone has a name
Anyway,your post read
"Do you seriously think “punishing” means “killing”?
To which I responded
"Well yes actually,in the case of a guy with a skull for a symbol that makes it quite clear
"A death sentence is a thing,ergo punish them to death"
Punishing someone does not automatically mean death,buuut in the case of character named 'The Punisher' it generally does,the guy is probably named after castle doctrine,which as you know is a law that makes it legal to kill trespassers as an act of self defence but I don't know this likely true or a happy coincidence
Edited by Ultimatum on Feb 11th 2021 at 4:26:52 PM
have a listen and have a link to my discord server@Beatman 1 What is it with the Punisher being written by people who hate him? Hell, why do these guys write him if they hate him so much?
By enters the MCU do y'all mean "they bring Jon Bernthal into the movies"...?

You can even Race Lift Frank Castle and let his loved ones be victims of corrupt racist cops. But because All Cops Are Bastards, they won’t do anything about it, and Frank decides to take matters into his own hands.
Though that would bring its own can of worm, I’m sure. But it’s worth thinking about.