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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#124951: Feb 8th 2021 at 7:41:20 PM

Inhumans won't be back until they can wash off the stink of trying to make them the new mutants, as opposed to the actual New Mutants.

And even then, Marvel may have torpedoed the entire franchise 100%, with that damned show being the final nail in the coffin. But only time will tell I suppose.

One Strip! One Strip!
Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#124952: Feb 8th 2021 at 7:55:56 PM

I feel like the royal family might be done for, but we'll see inhumans through Kamala and Kamran, at least.

The nuhumans never really got the same backlash as the royals did because they were always pretty disconnected.

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#124953: Feb 8th 2021 at 7:56:33 PM

On Punisher: I think my favorite Punisher story, at least conceptually, was in the Ultimate comics. Where other heroes were following were hunting a pair of serial killers and it turned out ot was the Punisher, but he had the Ghost Rider on his tail the whole time. Or something like that. Its been a few years.

Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#124954: Feb 8th 2021 at 8:12:12 PM

[up][up][up] The New Mutants themselves need their own shower after that whimper of a Fo X-Men finale. Good thing the X-Men basically have their own hero universe to draw things from.

[up][up] Didn't stop Marvel from doing a purge leaving only Kamala, Lunella and maybe one or two more of those.

Edited by Blueace on Feb 8th 2021 at 1:13:59 PM

Wake me up at your own risk.
Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#124955: Feb 8th 2021 at 8:25:36 PM

I could honestly see MCU Kamala having a completely different origin, being stone/Blip stuff, or for real fun, making her a mutant.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#124956: Feb 8th 2021 at 8:43:05 PM

Yeah. It's pretty much agreed they're gonna distance Kamala from the Inhumans (which is easy to do since she's never been particularly tied to them).

In fact, the possibility that they'll pull a reverse Scarlett Witch and make her a mutant is on the table.

Honestly, I'm still annoyed that Marvel did the Royal Family so dirty. There probably plenty of ways to tell good stories with them, but Executive Meddling has made them radioactive because they still don't understand that there's just some things you can't do to characters.

It's screwed the New Warriors, it's screwed Wanda, it's screwed Tony and Carol (aka Civil War Asshole 1 and Civil War Asshole 2) and it may or may not have screwed Cap (the entire Nazi thing did him no favours in universe or out).

And yet, in many cases they double down on these things. I don't get why.

One Strip! One Strip!
windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#124957: Feb 8th 2021 at 9:52:03 PM

Tony, Carol, Steve and Wanda at least have the MCU to fall back on. The New Warriors never truly recovered from being the catalyst of Civil War and there lack of presence in other media also means Marvel has less reason to invest in them. Say what you will about how DC handles the Titans in the comics, but they at least have the popular t.v. shows to fall back on.

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#124958: Feb 9th 2021 at 12:21:48 AM

Y'know, with Peter being framed for a bunch of crimes, this would have been a golden opportunity to introduce the Punisher as a misguided vigilante trying to take down that menace Spider-Man.

Pretty sure that's how he's introduced. More or less.

I could honestly see MCU Kamala having a completely different origin, being stone/Blip stuff, or for real fun, making her a mutant.

Not so sure about that, especially the mutant part.

And the Infinity Stones aren't around anymore.

I expect Kree shenanigans, which wouldn't be far from the source since they more or less created the Inhumans.

Edited by Cortez on Feb 9th 2021 at 9:17:22 AM

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#124959: Feb 9th 2021 at 12:24:26 AM

If the Blip causes mutants, could Peter Parker have an X-gene activate and become Spider-Mutant? tongue

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Feb 9th 2021 at 12:24:36 PM

HallowHawk Since: Feb, 2013
#124960: Feb 9th 2021 at 1:14:42 AM

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I doubt that, especially the mutant part.

And the Infinity Stones aren't around anymore.

But Carol still has the powers she got from being exposed to the Space Stone/Tesseract.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#124961: Feb 9th 2021 at 1:19:57 AM

As does Wanda.

Disgusted, but not surprised
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#124962: Feb 9th 2021 at 2:09:10 AM

Uh how are the Hulk rights currently, is he still unable to get his own movie?

Cause reading Immortal Hulk I would love to have a movie starring Xemnu the Living Hulk as the main antagonist.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
jakobitis Doctor of Doctorates from Somewhere, somewhen Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Doctor of Doctorates
#124963: Feb 9th 2021 at 2:52:43 AM

The other possible way for mutants/Inhumans/superpowered types to start proliferating would be through the Eternals. They could easily enough be portrayed as doing something (deliberately or otherwise) that kickstarts some evolutionary shenanigans.

"These 'no-nonsense' solutions of yours just don't hold water in a complex world of jet-powered apes and time travel."
Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#124964: Feb 9th 2021 at 7:14:22 AM

I can see the Punisher being a hitman that works for whoever hires him, and that would spring forth a bunch of moral quandaries that the other MCU properties haven’t touched on much yet.

The legend has returned.
Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#124965: Feb 9th 2021 at 7:55:29 AM

Tom Holland Says Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield Are Not in Spider-Man 3

Guess we can draw a line under that one now that we've got a hard no.

"Yup. That tasted purple."
miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#124966: Feb 9th 2021 at 8:11:58 AM

He could be lying. You never know

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#124967: Feb 9th 2021 at 8:12:40 AM

I believe that Tom Holland would immediately and accidentally leak it if it were true

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#124968: Feb 9th 2021 at 8:46:48 AM

Remember that Sony already said no back in October but some people just won't let it die.

"Yup. That tasted purple."
Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#124969: Feb 9th 2021 at 8:57:53 AM

At this point you also gotta stop and think how much of Holland's quirky spoilering is authentic and how much is strategic corporate advertising...seems like something they could have gotten a handle on by now.

Akirakan Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#124970: Feb 9th 2021 at 9:01:42 AM

PLOT TWIST!

Turns out they will appear in Multiverse of Madness!

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#124971: Feb 9th 2021 at 9:07:35 AM

He quirkily left an entire script on the bus once which marvel had to scramble to retrieve

Or however the story went

Edited by Bocaj on Feb 9th 2021 at 12:08:10 PM

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
Mizerous Pet Owner from Hell Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Pet Owner
#124972: Feb 9th 2021 at 11:41:50 AM

So I guess they are bringing in old actors to reprise roles for no reason. :V

Just Makima.
chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#124973: Feb 9th 2021 at 1:39:28 PM

Plot twist, they're actually gonna bring in Nicholas Hammond from the '70s Spider-Man TV series!

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities

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