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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#124801: Feb 6th 2021 at 5:12:32 PM

So who are we getting as Blade's opponent(s) in that film. Dracula or Deacon Frost ?

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#124802: Feb 6th 2021 at 5:28:57 PM

[up]Dracula IIRC is showing up in Moon Knight, where he will presumably owe the titular character money.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#124803: Feb 6th 2021 at 5:31:14 PM

You know, there's a large part of me that hopes that Meme gets referenced...only for Dracula to cut him off by punching him in the face before he can finish and then beating his ass 13 ways from Sunday.

Not 12. But 13. That's how sick Dracula is of that meme, and it doesn't even exist in universe.

One Strip! One Strip!
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#124804: Feb 6th 2021 at 5:34:01 PM

I just want Dracula to follow his heart

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#124805: Feb 6th 2021 at 6:21:23 PM

It's clearly gonna be a Skrull pretending to be Dracula to tie into the Secret Invasion TV series.

AmazingSpiderHam Since: Sep, 2020
#124806: Feb 6th 2021 at 6:25:40 PM

It's not as funny as Doctor Doom owing Luke Cage money anyway.

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#124807: Feb 6th 2021 at 6:28:52 PM

[up]I am still a bit saddened DOOM never showed in Luke Cage, even if I completely expected it.

I just want to see DOOM doing his thing and whining about that infernal RICHARDS.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#124808: Feb 6th 2021 at 7:13:33 PM

On the Blade reboot itself, given the writer's past reference, I would be down for having the music by Trent Reznor & Atticus Ross.

Those guys know their neo-noir...

...and their fighting pieces.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#124809: Feb 6th 2021 at 10:47:11 PM

*rewatches Ant-Man and The Wasp*

So Scott's sentence wasn't just 2 years of house arrest; it was to be followed with three years of probation.

I hope his time trapped in the Quantum Realm counted. tongue

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#124810: Feb 7th 2021 at 8:25:07 AM

I’m sure it was pardoned after he helped save the universe.

The legend has returned.
HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#124811: Feb 7th 2021 at 9:10:45 AM

I wouldn't be so sure: t'is be the Marvel Universe, every civilian and civilian authority is a cunt here.

miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#124812: Feb 7th 2021 at 9:48:13 AM

Funnigly enough JLA/Avengers lampshaded that.

  • When both teams are swapped in the universe of the other, the Justice League see first hand how the denizens hate, bully, and smear their heroes. Superman was appalled by all this, not because the people are just that dickish, but because he thinks the Avengers are not doing enough to help the people. In contrast, the Avengers see how much positive attention and praises the heroes of that world get. Captain America comes to the conclusion that the JLA are power-hungry tyrants that are subjecting citizens and demanding worship. While both have the wrong idea about the other, it paints the convincing picture of how idealized the DC Universe is compared to the Marvel Universe when it comes to how people react to superheroes.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
AmazingSpiderHam Since: Sep, 2020
#124813: Feb 7th 2021 at 9:51:41 AM

[up][up]To be fair the MCU isn't quite as bad about that as its comics counterpart, yet.

Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#124814: Feb 7th 2021 at 11:02:11 AM

Just wait until you see the big X. Then you'll see civilian dickishness in full force.

Wake me up at your own risk.
AmazingSpiderHam Since: Sep, 2020
#124815: Feb 7th 2021 at 11:14:29 AM

In an era where the increasing cultural zeitgeist is to look down at discrimination, will the MCU X-Men really reflect racism all that much anymore?

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Surrounded by weirdoes
#124816: Feb 7th 2021 at 11:19:43 AM

Given how much life it was given to the jackasses during the last few years, probably, so it gets well hammered that they have to just beat them and keep them beaten.

But hopefully, they'll manage to remember the crazy adventures and that they are kind of a soap opera.

Wake me up at your own risk.
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#124817: Feb 7th 2021 at 11:21:59 AM

I think that even if they just look at America - which they wouldn't need to - the past few years can give them a lot of fuel for modern take on a new minority facing prejudice.

They could do a ton with the concept of "forced diversity" alone. Or do stuff like the X-Men being dubbed a terrorist organization by prejudiced parts of the populace.

In-universe, the post-Thanos world could be a great story catalyst for the prejudice as well, with the idea that after Thanos wiped out half the planet people are hateful towards anything abnormal (unless it's the Avengers).

Edited by KnownUnknown on Feb 7th 2021 at 11:28:32 AM

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#124818: Feb 7th 2021 at 11:46:43 AM

[up]It’s just going to be weird to have the mutants, which were always the face of Marvel, be the new kids. I keep joking someone is going to call their mutant power a Quirk.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#124819: Feb 7th 2021 at 11:50:49 AM

Always the face of marvel my ass

The first run went into reruns because it sold like crap

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Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#124820: Feb 7th 2021 at 11:51:46 AM

[up]Since the late 80’s and 90’s, I mean.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#124821: Feb 7th 2021 at 11:52:05 AM

Bah! -yells at cloud-

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C105 Too old for this from France Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Too old for this
#124822: Feb 7th 2021 at 12:27:51 PM

Movie-wise though, mutants were the face of Marvel for a while. They have now been largely eclipsed by the MCU, but they were there first, and the only well-known onscreen Marvel for a while.

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Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#124823: Feb 7th 2021 at 12:29:43 PM

Mutants (or perhaps more specifically, Wolverine) were what kept Marvel afloat during the dark days of the 90's when the company nearly went under (and the reason why they sold their film rights to a bunch of companies) so they have that notch under their belt.

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Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#124824: Feb 7th 2021 at 12:29:55 PM

Somebody just linked this to me

https://www.fortressofsolitude.co.za/jon-bernthal-to-return-as-punisher/

I mean, I would be thrilled to see Bernthal return, but I just don't see it. Marvel-Disney making R-Rated Content? Yeah, not in this lifetime.

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Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#124825: Feb 7th 2021 at 12:32:42 PM

I can see at best a "light r" like the original Blade was (where it was really just a regular superhero fare but with blood and some swearing).

Punisher aside from being very hard R has a problem that the character itself is a can of worms given the fact he lends itself easily to fascist propaganda (and his skull in particular became a recurring fascist symbol). Disney would likely not step into that landmine even if you paid them to.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."

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