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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#124751: Feb 3rd 2021 at 2:38:34 PM

It was weird in Phase One that Rhodey was seemingly never approached about being on the Avengers. Tony might've had the edge on him in terms of inventive prowess, but Tony's also volatile and for a time that got him disqualified, while Rhodey is far less of a loose cannon.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#124752: Feb 3rd 2021 at 2:39:34 PM

I'd love to see Rhodey use a War Machine Hulkbuster at least once.

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#124753: Feb 3rd 2021 at 2:41:16 PM

Might as well, Tony's a bit too burned out to use that now.

chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#124754: Feb 3rd 2021 at 2:57:44 PM

I remember that bugged me when I first saw the original Avengers film. You think they'd mention Rhodey at some point in the movie, considering there weren't a whole lot of active heroes at the time. That's one thing I appreciated about Age of Ultron was that it had him be involved during the climax (granted, not as much as he should have). It did suck Sam got the shaft in that film, but at least he actually showed up at some point.

Although there was a tie-in comic that showed Rhodey was busy fighting the Ten Rings at the time and showed up in New York just as the Avengers were busy having shawarma.

Edited by chasemaddigan on Feb 3rd 2021 at 5:58:12 AM

RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#124755: Feb 3rd 2021 at 3:13:31 PM

It's worth noting, the teamup in The Avengers wasn't initially meant to be a gathering of superheroes. Bruce and Tony were recruited for their scientific expertise, Steve was there pretty much as a "show the new guy around" tour, and Thor burst in uninvited.

Edited by RavenWilder on Feb 3rd 2021 at 3:13:57 AM

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#124756: Feb 3rd 2021 at 3:15:53 PM

From what I remember, that most of the nominees were just aboard for scientific or security purposes was Nick Fury's cover story to the World Security Council, since they considered the Avengers program scrapped, but it was pretty clear Fury's real intent was assembling the Avengers in case the situation went south.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#124757: Feb 3rd 2021 at 3:22:10 PM

I'm curious if Rhodey will adopt a more Iron Man-esque armor for Armor Wars.

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TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#124758: Feb 3rd 2021 at 4:04:47 PM

[up] Hot take: Iron Man 2 had the best War Machine armor. Not sorry.

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#124759: Feb 3rd 2021 at 4:07:58 PM

Speaking of Rhodey and armor, why was he the only one that had a special look to his time travel suit?

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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#124760: Feb 3rd 2021 at 4:18:58 PM

Kinda needs a way to bypass the spinal damage.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#124761: Feb 3rd 2021 at 4:38:03 PM

[up][up][up] Thats his base armor.

That he wears for most appearances I think.

Edited by slimcoder on Feb 3rd 2021 at 4:38:29 AM

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#124762: Feb 3rd 2021 at 8:17:50 PM

I wonder if we'll see Beetle in Armor Wars. And get the requisite Big Bad Beetleborgs joke.

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#124763: Feb 3rd 2021 at 9:10:23 PM

I'll be amazed if the writers know or remember Beetleborgs.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#124764: Feb 4th 2021 at 12:56:05 AM

I'd prefer it if they saved Beetle for Spider-Man or Human Torch stuff, rather than put him in an Iron Man show.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#124765: Feb 4th 2021 at 8:15:35 AM

That he wears for most appearances I think.

Really? Could've sworn Rhodey's armor gets slimmer in Iron Man 3 and onwards...

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#124766: Feb 4th 2021 at 8:45:52 AM

It gets really bulky in Infinity War and Endgame.

FGHIK Since: Aug, 2013
#124767: Feb 4th 2021 at 8:57:48 AM

I like the tankier look. It's fitting for a, well, war machine, and makes it less of a Palette Swap of Iron Man's armor. Tony being on the cutting edge of tech and caring a lot more about style makes sense to have a slimmer, flashier armor.

Edited by FGHIK on Feb 4th 2021 at 10:58:56 AM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#124768: Feb 4th 2021 at 9:00:28 AM

its chonky armour that might as well have a big red target painted on it..

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Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#124769: Feb 4th 2021 at 9:55:10 AM

As long as we can all agree on the Iron Patriot armour being the worst.

Edited by Forenperser on Feb 4th 2021 at 6:55:36 PM

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HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#124770: Feb 4th 2021 at 10:09:14 AM

I actually like the Iron Patriot armour, garish as it is.

JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#124771: Feb 4th 2021 at 10:22:08 AM

I hope Sasha Hammer appears as a villain in the War Machine series.

The only difference in this version would be Justin hammer's daughter or niece, instead of his granddaughter.

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#124772: Feb 4th 2021 at 10:57:28 AM

Ezekiel Stane and Sasha Hammer seem like very solid ideas honestly.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#124773: Feb 4th 2021 at 11:00:37 AM

Sasha or Justine Hammer would also be dope it if ties into either Shang Chi or the Masters of Evil.

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#124774: Feb 4th 2021 at 12:29:14 PM

I may have mentioned this previously, but I recently learned about the Detroit Steel character/armor, and that would be perfect for Hammer or a proxy to wear.

Also, while I don't really have an idea for a design, other than incorporating the kind of nanotech that Tony uses, but I'm kind of iffy on the whole idea that War Machine armors are/should be clunkier and generally Boring, but Practical (I might say "crappy") compared to Tony's.

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#124775: Feb 4th 2021 at 4:23:18 PM

Based on the ages, it would make more sense to have Stane's grandchild teamed up with Hammer's child, as opposed to the other way around.


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