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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

AmazingSpiderHam Since: Sep, 2020
#124676: Jan 29th 2021 at 5:31:26 PM

I know the Spaniard dub actor for FOX's Quicksilver apparently reported having voiced the character again in Wandavision.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#124677: Jan 29th 2021 at 5:52:40 PM

Hmmm. I think I might know what it is without looking at the spoiler blocks...

Anyone want to share their methods on how to forget something ASAP? Like the Forget-Me-Shot from The Simpsons?

Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#124678: Jan 29th 2021 at 6:03:27 PM

Just be hit by several ear worms in quick succession and see if it gets buried.

Wake me up at your own risk.
Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#124679: Jan 30th 2021 at 2:00:00 PM

Zendaya talks about life on set so far there's been sequences where they're all running away from things they can't see (insert CGI later), as well as "aliens"

Prowler I'm here for our date, Rose! Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
I'm here for our date, Rose!
#124680: Jan 30th 2021 at 7:26:55 PM

I'm glad that the leak is from an episode coming out in a couple weeks to both clarify things and let us talk about them. I couldn't resist peeking.

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#124681: Jan 31st 2021 at 5:56:45 AM

Gotta admit, the fanbase had me fooled with the 'latest' leak, which was just rehashing an old 2019 credit card commercial.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#124682: Feb 1st 2021 at 7:39:55 AM

Finally, something that's not to do with WandaVision, which I STILL haven't started, what's wrong with me...

We have our first pics of Thor and Star-Lord in Thor: Love and Thunder!

  • R.I.P. Bro Thor. Long Live Rockin' 80s Hot Thor.
  • Jog my memory, did Quill rock the Badass Longcoat in Infinity War/Endgame? Because it's back with a vengeance here.

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Feb 1st 2021 at 9:12:35 AM

ShadowWingLG Since: Dec, 2013
#124683: Feb 1st 2021 at 7:53:02 AM

[up] Last time Star Lord had a long coat was in Vol 2 he wore it in the scene with Ayesha and on the way to Ego's planet then he swapped to the jacket. He's stuck with the jacket through IW and Endgame. The ONLY time he hasn't completely changed his costume is between IW/EG. most likely due to the snap

Why yes I AM a Cos-player who has excessively studied that character's costume changes, why do you ask?

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#124684: Feb 1st 2021 at 9:17:09 AM

[up] Cool. And it looks like Quill's longcoat has some armored plating going on.

We also have our first shots of Nebula and Kraglin!

I keep forgetting Sean Gunn is both Kraglin and Rocket's stand-in...

C105 Too old for this from France Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Too old for this
#124685: Feb 1st 2021 at 9:28:33 AM

I wonder if the upcoming movies and series will keep some "solo" films with no other characters than those about whom the movie is about apart from some cameos, or if the lines between each character's respective universes will continue to blur. Or maybe it is only the Thor movies that will get this treatment now.

Whatever your favourite work is, there is a Vocal Minority that considers it the Worst. Whatever. Ever!.
ShadowWingLG Since: Dec, 2013
#124686: Feb 1st 2021 at 9:32:43 AM

[up][up] Costume Geek mode on The Vol 1 Longcoat did have armor in the same spots, shoulder/upper arm/bracer but it looked like leather while this one is metal.

The Cos-Play plot bunny has already struck (damn it) I'm still revising the Vol 1 Kit...I do not need to start building THIS one.

HalfFaust Since: Jan, 2019
#124687: Feb 1st 2021 at 9:45:07 AM

Ah, neat. Was wondering if we'd see Kraglin again.

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#124688: Feb 1st 2021 at 9:53:42 AM

The set photos look cool.

Also, I really love how the MCU has had that intersection between the space opera "Cosmic" storyline and the sword and sorcery Asgardian storyline. I know one of the earlier movies (was it Age of Ultron? Dark World?) started it, but it's been really effectively embraced by Waititi.

It's accurate to the comics (for instance, Gorr the Godbutcher's demon sword is directly connected to the symbiotes, and Conan the Barbarian is a Marvel comics character).

But also, it is nicely reflective of how space opera and sword and sorcery are pretty closely connected as genres, and there's a history of sword and sorcery books doing a Genre Roulette.

One specific example that came to mind is Alyx, written by Joanna Russ, who appears both as a fantasy rogue and in science fiction stories as an agent of the "Trans-Temporal Authority". Which I'd assume is where Marvel "borrowed" its Time Variance Authority, soon to appear in Loki (2021).

Edited by Hodor2 on Feb 1st 2021 at 11:55:19 AM

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#124690: Feb 1st 2021 at 12:25:37 PM

Really interested in seeing individual arcs for each of the five nations perhaps.

JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#124691: Feb 1st 2021 at 1:52:45 PM

One character that I would like to see appear in Thor 4, even as a cameo is Kid Loki.

I imagine him as a clone of Loki, which the original loki created in case he was ever killed.

To avoid the Squick in case he has a relationship with a young person (Boy or girl), it is by saying that the new Loki has no memories of his previous life, so his mental age and physical age are the same.

Edited by JoLuRo075 on Feb 1st 2021 at 1:53:20 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#124692: Feb 1st 2021 at 2:30:02 PM

Love that Thor has his long hair back.

He really looks best with a roaring mane.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#124693: Feb 1st 2021 at 3:18:27 PM

[up][up] Have the films ever had Loki express romantic or sexual interest before? Doubt it'd be an issue.

JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#124694: Feb 1st 2021 at 3:21:47 PM

Loki no, but his clone / reincarnation Kid Loki could do it.

And assuming Richard E. Grant is Old Loki, we'd have the whole trio.

Old Loki would be the most evil of the three, Kid Loki would be the friendly, while 2012 Loki would be in the middle.

Edited by JoLuRo075 on Feb 1st 2021 at 3:33:46 AM

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#124695: Feb 1st 2021 at 3:43:20 PM

Goodbye, Lebowski Thor.

You shall be missed.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#124696: Feb 1st 2021 at 3:44:33 PM

The dude wields the hammer-axe.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#124697: Feb 1st 2021 at 3:46:09 PM

Also known as a hamaxe. Both because of combining the words and because its great at cutting ham.

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#124698: Feb 1st 2021 at 4:47:17 PM

Costumes for Captain Falcon.

https://www.ign.com/articles/falcon-winter-soldier-baron-zemo-john-walker-costumes-mcu-us-agent

Zemo rocking the mask and a full look at Walker's Cap suit.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#124699: Feb 1st 2021 at 4:51:30 PM

Those look great.

I’m kind of puzzled though that Zeno is referred to as Baron Zemo in various articles.

Yeah I know that was his inherited title in the comics, but I don’t think there’s been indication that the MCU character is an aristocrat.

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#124700: Feb 1st 2021 at 5:03:06 PM

He is referred as "Baron" in the image, though.

I actually spent a unhealthy amount of time today wondering about that. Given its location (stated to be between Slovenia and the Czech Republic) Sokovia was probably in the Soviet side of the iron curtain, and even if Sokovia had a aristocracy system the Soviets would have most definitely abolished it, meaning Zemo can't have been from a aristocratic family.

Then again, Daniel Bruhl is German in nationality, so it's possible that his family is a expatriate German/Austrian noble family, but the germanic nobilities got abolished after WWI (though Germany was more wishy-washy about it and allowed noble surnames to stand) so one way or another the aristocracy of Zemo would be several generations removed. Two or three generations if Sokovia had a internal aristocratic system before the Soviets took over and four to five generations back if their hypothetical aristocracy is germanic (considering Bruhl was born in 1978, I'd guess four to five).

And the question is there to be asked why the Hell Zemo would even consider dredging back a title like that. It doesn't seem like it'd be a big concern for his character as established, as he has no particular drive to make himself sound important or establish his lineage or somesuch.

The wonky but passable route would be that "Baron" was his nom de guerre in the EKO Scorpion death squad he helmed and he simply picks it up again once he decides to go back in the intelligence business.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."

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