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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#124651: Jan 28th 2021 at 6:57:12 AM

MCU Ultron wouldn't put up much of a fight, honestly.

ClancyGardener life is a state of mind from 53 miles west of Venus Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
#124652: Jan 28th 2021 at 9:08:05 AM

Now I'm imagining a three-way fight between Comics Ultron, MCU Ultron, and The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes Ultron.

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TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#124653: Jan 28th 2021 at 3:59:52 PM

Ugh. I really need to get on that WandaVision horse...

Anyway, yet another Spider-Man 3 set photo has emerged.

It's a truck reading F.E.A.S.T.. For the uninitiated, F.E.A.S.T. is the cover organization of Martin Li, aka Mister Negative. It was established in 2004 in the comics but came back to prominence thanks to the Spider-Man game for PS4.

Mind you, it's probably an Easter egg and nothing more. Maybe.

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Jan 28th 2021 at 4:03:27 AM

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#124654: Jan 28th 2021 at 4:20:16 PM

If they're doing the Sinister Six, they might be doing the thing the PS 4 game did where they put Mr. Negative on the team.

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
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#124655: Jan 28th 2021 at 6:25:22 PM

I hope that Spider-Man 3 isn't just the PS4 game but with a high school aged Peter and set in the MCU.

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Aleistar Since: Feb, 2018 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
#124656: Jan 28th 2021 at 7:39:54 PM

Alternatively, Mister Negative isn't involved and instead Peter goes to FEAST while he's on the run. I don't think Marvel would be super interested in rehashing an earlier Spidey plot given a big focus of MCU!Peter has been doing stuff that we haven't seen in prior movies.

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#124657: Jan 28th 2021 at 7:54:02 PM

It’s worth noting that the organization already appeared in Far From Home, as the name of May Parker’s charity. Same words in the acronym too.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#124658: Jan 28th 2021 at 7:58:35 PM

[up][up] Since we have posters and such of people going "I believe Mysterio," I'm assuming Spider-Man didn't face any charges for supposedly killing Beck.

Since SHIELD could vouch for him pretty easily, I don't think it was ever really on the cards that Spidey would go on the run.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#124659: Jan 28th 2021 at 8:02:53 PM

Myterio's framing will most likely be used to justify "Hero or Menace", why Spidey is eternally controversial with the public, as there will be a section of the public who believes Mysterio.

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RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#124660: Jan 28th 2021 at 9:35:40 PM

Maybe in the film, Peter's not on the run, but he is out on bail, awaiting trial, with his guilt or innocence hotly debated in the meida.

C105 Too old for this from France Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Too old for this
#124661: Jan 29th 2021 at 12:55:58 AM

Talking about Peter, my brother made an interesting remark when we rewatched Endgame recently: for a highschooler who found himself travelling to a different planet, fighting a physical god, dying and coming back to life, and above all fighting in the middle of a full-out war that made WW1 look like a playground fight, he sure does not show any sign of PTSD. Tony was much more affected after simply pushing a missile through a wormhole (yes, I know, he's Tony but still...)

I know the Doylist explanation is that it would have made Far From Home a far grimmer film, but some lip service about that could have been interesting.

Edited by C105 on Jan 29th 2021 at 9:56:19 PM

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jakobitis Doctor of Doctorates from Somewhere, somewhen Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
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#124662: Jan 29th 2021 at 2:59:20 AM

It could be that so much happening means it simply hasn't sunk in properly. Like, he hasn't processed it enough to get traumatized as things keep happening and happening. If he ever stopped long enough to think about what is happening to him, BAM! PTSD right there.

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#124663: Jan 29th 2021 at 3:46:00 AM

I Mean Talos/Fury (the head of Shield) can vouch for Peter being innocent. I don't think he'll Be brought to trial or anything. It's more the public will probably be torn on that. Fuelling conspiracy theories.

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C105 Too old for this from France Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#124664: Jan 29th 2021 at 3:48:38 AM

[up] Having the head of a shadowy organisation that was recently revealed as being infiltrated by HYDRA vouch for him may not be the best PR move, though.

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#124665: Jan 29th 2021 at 5:16:16 AM

Yeah, I don't think anyone would trust Fury's word in court.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#124666: Jan 29th 2021 at 5:24:16 AM

Its why I believe this will just majorly affect his reputation.

Pretty clever way of doing the "He's a menace" really. No matter what Spidey does now, some people will never let this Mysterio thing go now.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#124667: Jan 29th 2021 at 9:03:21 AM

If he's anything like comics Peter, he'll just unload any new trauma onto his already bloated and overtaxed guilt complex.

Having the head of a shadowy organisation that was recently revealed as being infiltrated by HYDRA vouch for him may not be the best PR move, though.

Maybe, but whether the public believes it and whether Fury's input absolves him legally are two different things.

Having the actual law enforcement involved in the situation say "that's not what happened, this is what happened" would make it very difficult for him to get charged for anything.

Like slimcoder said, the most likely result is that Peter faces no legal repercussions whatsoever, but takes a massive hit to his reputation, putting us in the same status quo as comics Spidey.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Jan 29th 2021 at 9:07:14 AM

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#124668: Jan 29th 2021 at 9:29:36 AM

That reminds me of Marvels where Marvels Phil learned that “wanted for questioning” literally just meant that the cops wanted to question Spider-Man about George Stacy’s death and that he wasn’t being blamed or a suspect

They just needed his statement because he was one of the only people who saw all of what happened

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TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#124669: Jan 29th 2021 at 10:31:46 AM

It’s worth noting that the organization already appeared in Far From Home, as the name of May Parker’s charity. Same words in the acronym too.

Had to double check and I remembered FFH had Peter as Spider-Man appearing in a charity thing with banners.

It's not explicitly referred to as F.E.A.S.T. (and there's no page for it on the Marvel Wiki, but I guess it's like how S.W.O.R.D. was seen in FFH, but not really called that.

So let's split the difference and call it a case of "heavily implied."

Akirakan Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#124670: Jan 29th 2021 at 11:53:12 AM

I know the Doylist explanation is that it would have made Far From Home a far grimmer film, but some lip service about that could have been interesting.

FFH treats the snapppening as a complete joke. One of Peter's teacher was left by his wife pretending to be snapped, and that is treated as a joke.

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#124671: Jan 29th 2021 at 11:57:24 AM

So what? It's a teen comedy.

[down]That, too.

Edited by HailMuffins on Jan 29th 2021 at 8:02:02 AM

miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#124672: Jan 29th 2021 at 1:06:30 PM

Tbf that was hilarious

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#124673: Jan 29th 2021 at 5:17:33 PM

[up] Not for that dude.cool

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AmazingSpiderHam Since: Sep, 2020
#124674: Jan 29th 2021 at 5:24:48 PM

Peter just being suspected of ever being Spider-Man should make him completely inefficient. Logically he'd be hounded, stalked and watched over at all times by someone or another, including villains. I can't fathom a moment where he'd be able to sneak out anymore to suit up without confirming the suspicions instantly.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#124675: Jan 29th 2021 at 5:29:48 PM

Beware on social media. There are some pretty massive Wandavision spoiler clips leaking out, including one that confirms a pretty insane fan theory I kinda can't believe turned out to be correct.


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