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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Prowler I'm here for our date, Rose! Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
I'm here for our date, Rose!
#124426: Jan 17th 2021 at 1:05:22 PM

[up] Whoops.

This is a terrible page starter...

so... I chose to take the Strucker Watches ad in Wandavision literally and assume that the dude has somehow returned from his ignoble offscreen death to be the guy watching the show. I don't know how close I might be.

Edited by Prowler on Jan 17th 2021 at 2:06:44 AM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#124427: Jan 17th 2021 at 2:15:23 PM

Need to resubscribe to Disney plus again

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#124428: Jan 17th 2021 at 2:36:35 PM

If Strange is involved in the movie, maybe someone is kidnapping children for a mystical mass sacrifice thing?

There is a story from the Straczykski run where Spidey teams up with Dr. Strange to investigate a bunch of kids getting kidnapped by mystical means, come to think of it.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#124430: Jan 17th 2021 at 3:39:59 PM

My first reaction was "What? Why?", but it actually makes a lot of sense to show that actor!Loki and some of the other Asgardian mauve shirts survived between meeting Thanos and the present.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#124431: Jan 17th 2021 at 3:53:29 PM

[up] Or it could be for a voice role like Throg or Beta Ray Bill?

But not likely. tongue

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#124432: Jan 17th 2021 at 5:43:25 PM

Obviously Loki survived Infinity War and is now disguised as the last person anybody would ever expect. Fake Loki.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#124433: Jan 17th 2021 at 8:04:49 PM

I don't know. By the time of Ragnarok, Thor seemed to have gotten better at seeing through Loki's tricks.

I could totally picture him punching Fake Loki in the face just to make sure he's not real Loki....

....and then taking a swing at Fake Thor, because nobody would expect Loki to disguise himself as Thor.cool

One Strip! One Strip!
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#124434: Jan 17th 2021 at 8:09:07 PM

Well, Loki in the comics did essentially disguise himself as...himself. Sort of.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#124435: Jan 18th 2021 at 10:34:42 AM

My crackpot theory on Matt Damon's character is that he was not playing an Asgardian actor, he was playing Matt Damon who had been "recruited" by Loki from Earth to act in the Asgardian plays.

JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#124436: Jan 18th 2021 at 11:10:10 AM

If the Matt Damon thing turns out to be true, and his role goes beyond being a simple cameo, it would be a surprising example of Ascended Extra.

jakobitis Doctor of Doctorates from Somewhere, somewhen Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Doctor of Doctorates
#124437: Jan 18th 2021 at 11:58:39 AM

[up][up] ... I really want that to be canon now.

"These 'no-nonsense' solutions of yours just don't hold water in a complex world of jet-powered apes and time travel."
chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#124438: Jan 18th 2021 at 1:42:53 PM

I mean... Loki had to have visited Earth to drop Odin off at the retirement home. He could have taken Matt Damon to Asgard during that time period.

Holy shit, does this mean people thought Matt Damon had mysteriously disappeared sometime in 2013?

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#124439: Jan 18th 2021 at 1:44:16 PM

Quality acting right there.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#124440: Jan 18th 2021 at 1:55:54 PM

I've never listened to the directors' commentary, so I'm not positive this is deliberate, but I think it's a Casting Gag because Matt Damon also played a character called Loki in Dogma.

As a side note, that's a pretty interesting illustration of Everyone Hates Hades and henotheism, because the Dogma!Loki is described as being the former Angel of Death and he's a merciless punisher of human evil. Which pretty much means that he's a surprisingly accurate rendition of Samael.

Edited by Hodor2 on Jan 18th 2021 at 3:57:29 AM

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#124442: Jan 18th 2021 at 5:21:36 PM

Well, it's official.

Sorry, Arthur. sad

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#124443: Jan 19th 2021 at 11:30:17 AM

Matt Damon is playing Skrull Matt Damon.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#124444: Jan 19th 2021 at 2:54:23 PM

So I'm also hearing rumours that a certain African Goddess will be appearing in Love and Thunder as well.

I mean, that's certainly another way to bring the thunder.cool

One Strip! One Strip!
Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#124445: Jan 19th 2021 at 3:00:40 PM

The rumor seems to trace to a single tweet and I’ve found nothing from any official source, including not the alleged Hollywood Reporter citation.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#124446: Jan 19th 2021 at 3:03:27 PM

Slowly reintroducing Xmen and then building towards a movie is a wise move, especially given the years of fox moves were less then steller

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#124447: Jan 19th 2021 at 3:18:54 PM

Fox hated her so much they would buy the rights to her just to ensure she doesn’t speak more than five lines.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#124448: Jan 19th 2021 at 3:19:15 PM

I will say I really like the pairing of Thor and Storm.

So even its not actually anything, its a nice thought.

[up] They did give the character barely anything to do ever.

Edited by slimcoder on Jan 19th 2021 at 3:19:44 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#124449: Jan 19th 2021 at 5:20:14 PM

It's probably not actually anything, yeah. But the idea of Thor and Storm appearing together does remind me of Marvel Adventures: Avengers, which is always fun to think about.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#124450: Jan 19th 2021 at 8:03:50 PM

Though Thor wasn't a regular part of the line-up for that comic. He just showed up in an issue where he was revealed to be dating Storm.

There was also an X-men / Alpha Flight crossover where they were taken to Asgard and Storm I believe got her hands on (as in Loki gave to her) a hammer similar to Mjolnir.

I think it's also how Danielle Monster became a Valkyrie as well.

One Strip! One Strip!

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