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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
Huh here’s something random.
It’s hard reading a comic with Thanos in it, to hear Brolin’s voice. Like the characters are of very different temperaments, Comic-Thanos is very aggressive and prone to screaming his lines while Film-Thanos is more calm and speaks in a lower tone.
So when I’m reading Thanos’s line since I’m not used to hearing Brolin screaming, it’s harder to imagine what he would sound like and the end result in my head just sounds off.
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."On the subject of Captain America related things, thanks to a leaked toy, it appears we have the first look at
Sam Wilson's Captain America outfit from The Falcon and the Winter Soldier.
Assuming it's real, of course.
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I get that feeling sometimes, too. I feel the same way about Mark Hamill and the Joker, for example.
I know lots of people say they hear Mark whenever they read the Joker, but I've always found it difficult to do so for stories made since the 90's because the kind of theatricality Mark was emulating in his performance hasn't been present in the character in the comics for decades.
Edited by KnownUnknown on Jan 15th 2021 at 2:07:02 AM
Was Arthur in the second episode? I don’t remember seeing him after the first.
I guess Sy Ableman really did die offscreen in a car crash.
Edited by Tuckerscreator on Jan 15th 2021 at 2:44:27 AM
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Edit: Yes there is one.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16107505280A84247900&page=1
Also damn, I looked over everything Thanos says in both IF & End. Crazy thing, he never gets angry. Like he yells in pain but he never outright says a line in a furious emotion.
Everything he says is in that same low soft tone. Thanos has never raised his voice in either film.
Edited by slimcoder on Jan 15th 2021 at 3:04:17 AM
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."I remembered that scene not going that far (the fact I watched the movie dubbed to my language might have helped), but still, yeah, Comics! Skull has done far worse.
The Marvel Comics line has two main inspirators for villain writing, Stan Lee and then (more arguably) Chris Claremont, and neither of them was exactly subtle with how they wrote dialogue.
Whose Ethan Hawke playing ?
Moon knight doesn't really have much of rogues gallery. His Arch enemy and most iconic foe is Bushman whose uh black. So I doubt that would be played by Ethan.
"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."Comic book Red Skull is fully blown nazi,he's near enough to be the embodiment of Evil
The movies play down the nazi aspect because surprise surprise nazis are a hard sell to with film audiences or something,I remember them being very candid when they admitted this
Edited by Ultimatum on Jan 15th 2021 at 12:12:28 PM
have a listen and have a link to my discord serverIIRC the exact wording was something along the lines of "You can't sell Burger King toys of Nazis".
Basically, what they were getting at was that more explicitly making the bad guys Nazis would have essentially made the film a bit more...adult if you will or looked like they were making light of the Nazis.
Going back to the example they give: it would likely be very hard to convince Burger King that they should hand out toys of Waffen SS members.
Leviticus 19:34You don't have to make a villain a Nazi for them to be completely evil (though it always helps!), the fact that Comics!Skull is even more outrageous in behavior compared to his film counterpart isn't directly related to his Nazism, and Comics!Skull has lost whatever faith he ever had on Nazism and is just a total nihilist now anyway.
It's more like, well, Comics!Skull is much more verbose as hes always giving these pompous rants on how his hatred fuels him and yadda yadda. Again, that's an artifact from him coming from the Simon/Kirby days, and then the Stan Lee reinventions, back when villains were much more in-your-face and theatrical about their villainy.
Just compare Lee's Magneto to Claremont's, even if the latter, as I said above, also was very verbous in a different way, that of constantly questioning his nature and torturing himself over it, rather than embracing it with imaginary moustache-twirling gusto like his Silver Age self.
Edited by AmazingSpiderHam on Jan 15th 2021 at 4:31:15 AM
I remember some reviews at the time pointed out how odd it was that X-Men: First Class had a more explicit Nazi as a villain despite being set in the '60s than Captain America: The First Avenger did.
It's a complicated issue. The Red Skull's ties to Nazi Germany are still there, so it's not like it's completely whitewashing him or anything. You can still call him a Nazi and be accurate. There was also a tie-in comic made for the film that showed Schmidt being more hands-on with the organization, such as participating in the Night of the Long Knives and sending Erskine's family to a concentration camp.
Also, I just realized that the first Captain America movie is going to turn 10 years old this year. o_O
Edited by chasemaddigan on Jan 15th 2021 at 7:50:58 AM
Back before IMDB shut down its forums, I had one particular argument against a poster who claimed the Captain America movies were better because they weren't "exploiting the Holocaust" by having explicit Nazi villains.
I wish I was kidding.
And that's downright harmless compared to some of the stuff I've seen.
Long story short, don't ever look for the comment section in any fictional Nazi-related video (which includes X-Men in this case). You'll ALWAYS stumble upon Holocaust-denying jackasses. Really, that should be the new Godwin's Law.
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I mean, you can disagree with the opinion, but I see where it's coming from.
Both First Class and The First Avenger have main villains who are former Nazis (in both cases, the bad guys cut ties with the Nazis early on to pursue their own megalomania). However, while The First Avenger is focused on the Western Front of the European Theatre, and thus at a remove from the Holocaust, First Class makes its hammy, superpowered, scenery chewing baddie the commandant of a death camp, and includes scenes of him performing scientific experiments on Jewish prisoners. Given that the movie is, overall, a colorful popcorn adventure flick, and that said baddie is meant to be over-the-top and fun to watch, those early scenes can be seen as a disrespectful use of a real life tragedy.

Most leader's in such roles in the Marvel Universe shady jerks, it only varies on how big of a jerk they are.