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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#124326: Jan 14th 2021 at 1:47:07 AM

Frankly, I'd rather her be exclusively Hulk by the halfway point.

BOOXMOWO Since: Mar, 2013
#124327: Jan 14th 2021 at 5:09:32 AM

Crazy that WandaVision's premier tomorrow marks the end of a year and a half long drought of MCU. I remember back when I was still going to my University's campus for classes, during breaks one of our regular topics of conversation were the latest Black Widow trailers (which we of course thought was just around the corner), and even at the time it felt like it had been a good while since Spider-Man.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#124328: Jan 14th 2021 at 9:34:06 AM

Deadline is reporting that Chris Evans eyeing a return to the MCU.

I can’t say I’d want Steve back in a leading role after Endgame wrapped up his story, but I would be fine with him appearing in a guest star capacity in Falcon and the Winter Soldier or She-Hulk. Or as a Skrull. tongue

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Jan 14th 2021 at 9:36:06 AM

ShadowWingLG Since: Dec, 2013
#124329: Jan 14th 2021 at 9:41:42 AM

Old Man Steve has been requested for several future cameos. Make him the new Stan Lee Cameo!

C105 Too old for this from France Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Too old for this
#124330: Jan 14th 2021 at 9:47:31 AM

In fact, now that the MCU has time travel, and with the mechanism that taking things or people from the past does not change the present, they could bring back anybody they want (like they did with Gamora and sort of with Loki). Of course it would feel like a cop-out but it can be interesting if done sparingly and right.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#124331: Jan 14th 2021 at 9:53:03 AM

Technically they could also just de-age Cap at any time the same way they accidentally de-aged Scott.

However, I'm still holding out on hope for a flashback movie a la The Invaders or something. Or, like, them pulling the same thing as the comics and Earth's Mightiest Heroes by having Cap and/or the Howling Commandos be part of Wolverine's backstory.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#124332: Jan 14th 2021 at 10:02:37 AM

They specify it'd be a supporting role, which leads me to believe it'd either be A) a movie where he appears as old man Steve Rogers or B) something to do with the Multiverse where he plays an alternate Captain America.

Long shot, but I've also seen some speculation that since they're planning the return of the X-Men, he could appear in a WW 2 flashback where he encounters Wolverine.

Khfan429 Since: Aug, 2009
#124333: Jan 14th 2021 at 10:14:31 AM

I know it's probably not the case, but if they made a six-episode Disney+ "Man Out of Time" series about Cap returning the stones, I would be all about it.

ClancyGardener life is a state of mind from 53 miles west of Venus Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
#124334: Jan 14th 2021 at 10:16:04 AM

[up] Yes, then we could see what happened on Vormir, as Cap finally met the Red Skull again.

Bet that was awkward...

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Aleistar Since: Feb, 2018 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
#124335: Jan 14th 2021 at 10:42:18 AM

Out of curiosity, do we know at what time of day Wanda Vision premieres tomorrow?

ShadowWingLG Since: Dec, 2013
#124336: Jan 14th 2021 at 11:10:26 AM

[up][up]

Red Skull> "Steve *realizes who it is* Son OF A BITCH!" Steve> *quickly ports out*

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#124337: Jan 14th 2021 at 11:12:53 AM

I'd imagine Steve's first reaction to seeing Red Skull would be to assume the "someone has to die" thing that killed Natasha was a lie and a scheme by Skull, resulting in a pointless fight.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#124338: Jan 14th 2021 at 12:00:51 PM

RE: Chris Evans coming back to the MCU:

Well. I never saw this coming. But yes to having him in a supporting role or for showing stuff like flashbacks of Wolverine's time in WWII.

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Jan 14th 2021 at 12:01:20 PM

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#124339: Jan 14th 2021 at 12:25:57 PM

It'd be pretty interesting to see Skull and Cap meeting one another as old men at the end of their race, just in different ways.

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#124340: Jan 14th 2021 at 1:04:23 PM

To be honest I can’t really see anything coming out of it besides 5 seconds of “well that’s awkward to see you again” like every parody of them meeting has already done.

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#124341: Jan 14th 2021 at 1:24:22 PM

I'm glad to see more appearances by Evans in the MCU, and I would have liked to see more of his (young) Cap.

However, my first thought when hearing the news was that just like the comics, the MCU was lying about Sam being the new Captain America.

So, I kind of hope these are either flashback appearances or else appearances as Old!Cap.

I'm looking forward to seeing him return the Soul Stone to Vorimir, kick the Red Skull in the groin, and carry out a (successful) Orpheus-style rescue of Natasha

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#124343: Jan 14th 2021 at 2:12:13 PM

Haha, I love Chris Evans. He's all "wtf are you all talking about?"

jjjj2 from Arrakis Since: Jul, 2015
#124344: Jan 14th 2021 at 2:14:40 PM

You know given how many reports of the past couple of months have had actors denying they were cast and then it being confirmed, I don't know maybe I'm suspicious of his denial now?... Perhaps I'm being too paranoid.

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#124345: Jan 14th 2021 at 2:18:23 PM

I think we've gotten to the point where "news" sites can just make up anything for clicks, and even official denial from the people involved doesn't completely disprove it because they might be lying. This sucks, we have no way of knowing which side is telling the truth.

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#124346: Jan 14th 2021 at 2:28:45 PM

I'd like to see a non shady leader personally, Fury is pretty grey morally

Even Fury has been pretty shady though.

jakobitis Doctor of Doctorates from Somewhere, somewhen Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Doctor of Doctorates
#124347: Jan 14th 2021 at 2:33:06 PM

[up] Yeah, that is my point. Fury is sketchy as hell, and he's still around. Another "shades of grey" type is redundant. Give me an inspiring, genuinely heroic leader any day.

"These 'no-nonsense' solutions of yours just don't hold water in a complex world of jet-powered apes and time travel."
AmazingSpiderHam Since: Sep, 2020
#124348: Jan 14th 2021 at 2:48:39 PM

In politics, the field where Fury moves through, squeaky clean, morally uptight types are sadly usually devoured by all the wolves around them before long.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#124349: Jan 14th 2021 at 2:54:05 PM

It would be amusing to see Evans return only to play a character akin to Ultimate Cap.

As in the words of the ever unseeable John Cena, he’d be a douche.

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AmazingSpiderHam Since: Sep, 2020
#124350: Jan 14th 2021 at 3:06:02 PM

Chris Evans returns to play the Human Torch... the original, Golden Age Human Torch, that is.

Because of course a WWII era scientist creating an android to fight Nazis would model the android's appearance after that of Captain America. And it'd be a nice wink to Evans' previous Marvel role.

I know he already got a cameo in First Avenger, but, android. They could easily say he just had his features rearranged to resemble Rogers'.


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