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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#124251: Jan 10th 2021 at 7:24:12 PM

That's just in the Ultimate line of comics which had other "gems" like "you think this letter on my head stand for France?"

Edited by M84 on Jan 10th 2021 at 11:24:18 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#124252: Jan 10th 2021 at 7:24:34 PM

Hey, Ultimate aside from Spider-Man worked on shock value after a point. It doesn't count.

Wake me up at your own risk.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#124253: Jan 10th 2021 at 7:25:20 PM

None of his wives like him much, his dad sees Cyclops as his truest son, and his 2 sisters tend to be driven away by his assholery.

About the only one who unconditionally likes him is his daughter Luna.

[up][up] Come on thats not the only thing he says. How about all the "UR GAY" jokes towards Hulk?

Edited by slimcoder on Jan 10th 2021 at 7:26:01 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#124254: Jan 10th 2021 at 7:27:58 PM

[up]Even Luna hated him for a while when he tried to pretend all of the bad shit he had recently done was actually done by a Skrull pretending to be him.

She didn't respect him again until he fessed up in public.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#124255: Jan 10th 2021 at 7:30:49 PM

Pietro's one of those characters nobody ever really knew what to do with, so he just kinda drifted around. It even spread to non comics media. Like, I can't remember a good portrayal Quicksilver had before Age of Apolcalypse in anything.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#124256: Jan 10th 2021 at 7:34:40 PM

He was pretty cool in Ultimates....... well before 3.

Got a pretty good line against Hurricane, "This is what you get for hurting my friends."

Pietro and Wanda were among my favorite characters in the series so its quite a shame what happened to them. Damn you Loeb! (Raise fist in air)

Edited by slimcoder on Jan 10th 2021 at 7:35:32 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#124257: Jan 10th 2021 at 10:32:19 PM

But it was then later retconned that this was a big lie that some of the Inhumans told Quicksilver to fuck with him.

Even if it was retconning something stupid, that in itself sounds like a fantastic thing.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#124259: Jan 11th 2021 at 7:51:04 AM

More deets on [up] for those who wish to save a click:

  • As stated earlier, Deadpool 3 WILL be rated R.
  • But that's not the big surprise. The real surprise is that this will most DEFINITELY be set in the MCU. Yup, forget the Netflix shows, because Deadpool 3 will be the MCU's true first dive into R-Rated territory. (Don't forget the floaties, kiddos!)
  • The script's still getting worked on and Ryan is overseeing it. Filming won't start until 2022 at the earliest, since Ryan is a very busy boy. (But early-bird cameos won't be out of the question?)

All good things. Now if you'll excuse me...

(*tries to will Phil Lord & Chris Miller into being the directors for Deadpool 3*)

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#124260: Jan 11th 2021 at 7:58:41 AM

Ohohoho. See, I love Ryan Reynolds for his juvenile sense of humor and his commitment to his characters, so if he has creative input on the film it will at least be entertaining to watch, albeit likely very stupid. But really, what more can we expect from Deadpool?

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#124261: Jan 11th 2021 at 8:13:22 AM

[up]Considering Deadpool is all about the Lampshade Hanging, and he was the most immediate public result of the MCU adding Fox assets, I can only imagine the kind of fun he will have commenting on that.

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#124262: Jan 11th 2021 at 8:41:04 AM

I wonder how they are going to justify him being in the MCU.

They are going to be doing some semi-serious multiverse stuff with at least upcoming Doctor Strange movie, so they could pull him over with that.

However given that it's Deadpool I half expect Deadpool to get knocked out by Micky Mouse and just wake up in the MCU without further explanation at the start of Deadpool 3 and he just rolls with it.

HalfFaust Since: Jan, 2019
#124263: Jan 11th 2021 at 8:42:49 AM

Yeah, given Deadpool's general 'thing' I think no explanation whatsoever would work fine.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#124264: Jan 11th 2021 at 8:50:50 AM

I wouldn't mind having no explanation over how Deadpool came to the MCU...

But if we *need* an explanation, I would not oppose it being something like Wade getting into trouble with the TVA over the time-traveling spree we last saw him doing...

I wonder if we'll get a proper Earth numbering for Deadpool's world. It'd be hilarious if it ended up being Earth-24601. (wink)

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#124265: Jan 11th 2021 at 8:51:46 AM

The time travel device is a perfect mechanism for getting him to the MCU, especially if it burns out in the process and leaves him stuck here.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
EmeraldEmperor Lies and Violence! Since: Oct, 2020
Lies and Violence!
#124266: Jan 11th 2021 at 9:00:33 AM

[up][up] Current temporary numbering is TRN414 (the post DoFP timeline).

Edited by EmeraldEmperor on Jan 11th 2021 at 9:08:38 AM

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#124267: Jan 11th 2021 at 9:02:12 AM

[up] I meant something that wasn't a temporary reality number, but whatever. tongue

EmeraldEmperor Lies and Violence! Since: Oct, 2020
Lies and Violence!
#124268: Jan 11th 2021 at 9:08:45 AM

Yeah, I thought so. I'm just the kind of guy who'll go "Oh! I know the answer to that question! I should answer it, to validate my Inferiority Superiority Complex!" Without any thought given to it being wrong or unrelated. Sorry. tongue

Edited by EmeraldEmperor on Jan 11th 2021 at 9:10:23 AM

Khfan429 Since: Aug, 2009
#124269: Jan 11th 2021 at 9:10:35 AM

I'll be very surprised if Deadpool isn't the first mutant-adjacent thing we get, if only because you could literally start Deadpool 3 with Deadpool himself sitting at a desk outlining what's still canon with regards to his movies and what isn't, and it would be perfectly on-brand for him AND eliminate the issue of "audiences need to have read/watched interviews and side-material to understand how this relates to the MCU".

AmazingSpiderHam Since: Sep, 2020
#124270: Jan 11th 2021 at 9:13:57 AM

Someone asks Deadpool who he is, how he came to be.

He then gives three quick different explanations with matching short flashbacks, one of them is a very abridged version of the first movie, the second one is, I don't know, more like Ultimate Deadpool's, and the third one is pure nonsense, probably with a parody of Deathstroke's origin thrown in. Then the movie just goes on without making clear which origin, if any, matches the current continuity.

chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#124271: Jan 11th 2021 at 9:41:37 AM

I could also see the movie showing that the old Fox X-Men timeline has completely collapsed because of all the time travel shenanigans (and not just from Deadpool) and he and his supporting cast bail that universe before it's completely destroyed.

Also, I could also see the film going for a very extreme R-Rated Opening. Like, before the movie starts, have a "Walt Disney Studios presents", then have the very first shot of the film have Deadpool giving a gory headshot to a mook or something. I think that juxtaposition would be hilarious.

C105 Too old for this from France Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Too old for this
#124272: Jan 11th 2021 at 9:46:52 AM

Or possibly Deadpool interrupting the credits right after the Disney logo to warn people that this is not your average Disney flick and that they should get the kids the f*ck out of here if they were expecting something like that (and then he would sing "Papa can you hear me").

Edited by C105 on Jan 11th 2021 at 6:47:18 PM

Whatever your favourite work is, there is a Vocal Minority that considers it the Worst. Whatever. Ever!.
TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#124273: Jan 11th 2021 at 1:35:37 PM

I mean, movies by Marvel Studios don't even have a Disney opening, but I don't hate the idea.

AmazingSpiderHam Since: Sep, 2020
#124274: Jan 11th 2021 at 2:23:30 PM

Ryan Reynolds has to hum the Marvel opening theme himself as the logo appears onscreen.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#124275: Jan 11th 2021 at 2:46:13 PM

[up] YES.

Forget everything else. I need this now.


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