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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
It seems like a lot of discussions about registration get muddied by conflating the ideas of:
- superhero registration (you need a license to practice as a superhero, like a doctor or lawyer, and can be stripped of that license and and/or face legal penalties if you show yourself to be incompetent or reckless; the most reasonable of the concepts)
- superhuman registration (registering everyone with superpowers regardless of vigilante status; very dangerous, a privacy violation, and a potential tool for genocide, esp. re: mutants)
- superhero conscription (all superheroes but be part of a single organization with official leadership, as with the MCU Sokovia Accords; possibly could’ve worked if they followed due process instead of creating Marvel Gitmo, and if they’d had decent leadership rather than Ross)
- superhuman conscription (all superhumans must work for a specified government body, generally in a combat capacity; unethical, discriminatory, and a violation of civil liberties).
Edited by Galadriel on Dec 24th 2020 at 8:44:18 AM
On the briefly mentioned topic of Mojo a couple of pages back: I'm honestly still infuriated they haven't used him for Deadpool on a greater capacity. They should really use him for the third film.
"All you Fascists bound to lose."He’d really fit the meta tone
Re: Carol, she also keeps beating up Rogue when they interact but some of that is “stop sneaking into my house to talk to me, I have knee jerk feelings about you”, some of it is alternate Carols egging her on, some of it is Carol really not being over what Rogue has done, and some of it is just Rogue being ridiculously abrasive sometimes
Or mind control. I think Rogue was mind controlled into fighting Carol once and Carol broke the control by letting Rogue drain her because Rogue has her own knee jerk reaction against Carol living in her brain again
Edited by Bocaj on Dec 24th 2020 at 9:31:56 AM
Forever liveblogging the AvengersI doubt Mojo has anything to do with Wanda Vision. If anyone ever decides to use him in the MCU it'll probably be connected to the X-Men.
Yeah, the last time Carol and Rogue met, Nuclear Man had brainwashed Rogue, and so Carol sort of gave in to Rogue's powers so the two could work together to overcome his control. They're mostly (mostly) past their issues.
Mojo is one of those characters I'm surprised debuted in the X-Men instead of some place like Fantastic Four or Howard the Duck.
Edited by windleopard on Dec 24th 2020 at 11:41:41 AM
Given the stated Dr. Strange connection, my guess has been that the overarching antagonist there is Nightmare and that Wanda's powers are being influenced by the Dream Dimension, essentially warping reality around her into a twisted facsimile of her dreams and nightmares.
Edited by KnownUnknown on Dec 24th 2020 at 11:36:06 AM
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Mojo, IIRC, didn't debut in a X-Men book proper, but in the Longshot mini that debuted that character as well. I haven't read it myself, but I'm under the impression that it wasn't a mutant book itself, just an alien fantasy comic that happens to use characters who would shortly be brought into the mutant books.
x4 The only one I can think of The Emerald Warlock
, but I'm not sure how if even if he'd fit into the series considering his mystic origins.
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Edited by Aleistar on Dec 24th 2020 at 2:50:02 PM
I was under the impression Master Pandemonium was the closest thing Wanda had to a personal archnemesis.
Maybe Wandavision will bring Wonder Man into the MCU fold? He's an actor so he kinda fits with the TV motif, he's got a long story with the Scarlet Witch and the Vision, and he's kind of a need to set up if they ever want to use the Grim Reaper.
Wikipedia has this to say about the character in the context of the MCU but I don't know whether it's correct or not:
I’m reminded that the Gunpoint Diplomacy was also done in Civil War II when Carol & Tony brought an entire army to Bruce’s lab on the fear of another epic Hulk-out.
Which as you know is a very gracious sign of a lack of trust. After all this time and all they experienced together, everyone is still that scared of the Hulk that they can’t even reasonably discuss with Bruce “Hey a precog just told us your gonna Hulk-out, we are just trying to be safe”. Even worse is at that point Bruce was unable to turn into Hulk then, Amadeus Cho took so their fears were completely unfounded.
But no let’s bring an entire army to our friends door, that will surely go over well. No wonder Bruce and Devil Hulk cut off connections with the Avengers when they came back. They are terrible friends.
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."Don't worry. That's when the villains will step up.
I mean, Norman did essentially save the day at the climax of Secret Invasion.
One Strip! One Strip!Boo and hiss
It’s not like he saved the day, it’s more he kill stole
Forever liveblogging the AvengersI'd dig a Mojo show where is show is literally Mojo's broadcast, and each season he kidnaps a different group of Marvel heroes and guest stars to go through his games a la Survivor or something, but the actual story of every season is their slow but inevitable dismantling of his plan and eventual escape.

I wouldn't really call Gunboat Diplomacy 'de-escalating'. (Ironically, Cap during Avengers vs X-Men did the very same thing.)
Being friendly about having an army at your back and basically telling your opponent 'You have no choice in this, otherwise there will be violence.' isn't changing the fact that you are giving them no choice. That the other party acts enraged over this isn't really surprising, in my opinion.
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