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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#123676: Dec 11th 2020 at 3:36:40 PM

It just hit me that no recast for T'Challa probably means no Al Ewing's Ultimates... sad

Are there any pictures of the actress?

I'm curious what she looks like.

Of Xochitl? Try here.

Admittedly she looks pretty young. Though I guess that give her the chance to grow into the role? I'm willing to give her a chance.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#123677: Dec 11th 2020 at 3:40:11 PM

Huh turns out a previous role for the actress is playing a young gay in Gentefield.

Shout out to alliterator for the info. [tup]

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#123678: Dec 11th 2020 at 3:47:56 PM

I would like to see Sif angry with alt Loki, for exiling her.

Except he probably wouldn't be interacting with main universe Sif.

guess it's possible that there will be a recast/aged up America by the time Young Avengers comes around

Unlikely, Multiverse of Madness isn't set in the past, there won't be a time skip.

She also wasn't a part of the original line up of the Y.A. anyway.

Edited by Cortez on Dec 11th 2020 at 7:50:18 AM

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#123679: Dec 11th 2020 at 3:49:28 PM

I don't know if they'll adapt Ewing's Ultimates but if they do they would likely replace T'challa spot on the team with whoever going's to take his place as the head honcho of Wakanda. His job was mainly keeping good relations with the UN and excursion through the spiritual side of the cosmos on top of providing the funding and technology for the team.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#123680: Dec 11th 2020 at 3:59:00 PM

She also wasn't a part of the original line up of the Y.A. anyway.

She wasn't, but that's because the Captain America counterpart on the team beforehand was Patriot, and there's been no whisper of him being adapted to the MCU. Part of that is likely due to Eli Bradley disappearing from the comics due to copyright issues (though he finally showed up again in the last few years.)

djoki996 Since: Dec, 2018
#123681: Dec 11th 2020 at 4:11:43 PM

[up] and [up][up][up] And, anyway, not like MCU is completely faithful to the comics. Quill and the rest weren't original Guardians of the Galaxy, either.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#123682: Dec 11th 2020 at 4:16:07 PM

Well to be fair they are the modern incarnation of the Guardians & the roster of the first movie was essentially the Dn A roster only trimmed down.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#123683: Dec 11th 2020 at 4:16:56 PM

[up]×2

That doesn't work, they went with the Dn A line up for the Guardians films.

Every member in the first films lineup was someone in that run.

[up]

Exactly.

Edited by Cortez on Dec 11th 2020 at 8:17:20 AM

djoki996 Since: Dec, 2018
#123684: Dec 11th 2020 at 4:20:10 PM

Nevertheless, if they do adapt Young Avengers it's more than a little likely that Chavez will be a member.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#123685: Dec 11th 2020 at 4:20:23 PM

We may be headed for a combined Young Avengers + Champions roster instead.

  • Kate Bishop
  • America Chavez
  • Wiccan and Speed almost definitely
  • Cassie Lang
  • Ms. Marvel
  • Ironheart

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Dec 11th 2020 at 4:20:34 AM

Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#123686: Dec 11th 2020 at 4:21:59 PM

Who the hell names their kid "America"?

Certified: 48.0% West Asian, 6.5% South Asian, 15.8% North/West European, 15.7% English, 7.4% Balkan, 6.6% Scandinavian
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#123687: Dec 11th 2020 at 4:23:32 PM

Aliens?

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#123688: Dec 11th 2020 at 4:23:38 PM

It's not unheard of in Latin American families, such as with actress America Ferrera.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#123689: Dec 11th 2020 at 4:23:59 PM

> Who the hell names their kid "America"?

Who names their kid Paris?

Edited by Ultimatum on Dec 11th 2020 at 12:24:23 PM

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#123691: Dec 11th 2020 at 4:28:06 PM

[up][up] Greeks tongue

Certified: 48.0% West Asian, 6.5% South Asian, 15.8% North/West European, 15.7% English, 7.4% Balkan, 6.6% Scandinavian
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#123692: Dec 11th 2020 at 4:29:02 PM

Ah poor Bug, he'll never appear in a movie. tongue

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
AmazingSpiderHam Since: Sep, 2020
#123693: Dec 11th 2020 at 4:31:15 PM

Seems out of character for Doom. Doom built his own armor.

Even in comics canon Doom is not always above apropiating technology and resources from others. Just ask the Ovoids.

Man has a sense of honor but it's also a very self serving one, and not always exempt from taking advantage of loopholes and literal phrasing, for instance.

Who the hell names their kid "America"?

For Latin American audiences, that's not so much of an issue, but the choice (which I have to suppose didn't happen in a vacuum) of "Chavez" as her surname. Across the subcontinent, for obvious reasons, the name has been left politically charged and divisive for over two decades now.

Edited by AmazingSpiderHam on Dec 11th 2020 at 4:35:52 AM

Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#123694: Dec 11th 2020 at 4:48:48 PM

For some reason, adding Kamala to the young avengers when she was a bonified real avenger in the comics is just funny to me.

America, Wiccan, Speed, Hulkling, Stature and Kate is a decent enough group honestly. I doubt they'll get into the whole Kang thing, and I can go either way on Patriot.

But I could see them eventually doing something with the Champions, because Sam, Miles, and Amadeus could all easily appear with the setup given in earlier movies. Not too sure about Viv, though.

Edited by Joshbones on Dec 11th 2020 at 5:06:16 AM

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#123695: Dec 11th 2020 at 5:06:03 PM

[up][up]My easy guess is that is her last name is inspired by Cesar Chavez, and for obvious reasons not the other Chavez that shows up in the news. tongue

AmazingSpiderHam Since: Sep, 2020
#123696: Dec 11th 2020 at 5:07:59 PM

Ummmm-hmmmm.

Suuuure, let's go with that...

Much like Che, Chavez has been transfigured into something he never really was.

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#123697: Dec 11th 2020 at 5:17:31 PM

We may be headed for a combined Young Avengers + Champions roster instead.

Based on what?

At the least i can see Ironheart subbing for Iron Lad.

Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#123698: Dec 11th 2020 at 5:28:37 PM

I think people don't think it's likely that we'd have multiple teen teams just casually existing in the MCU, so they'd want to composite them.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#123699: Dec 11th 2020 at 5:29:09 PM

Just based on my guess that it would be simpler to have a single team with the "teen Avengers" gimmick rather than two. I had previously assumed the Champions were a couple of years away from being announced but with Kamala and Riri confirmed that assumption's gone.

Aleistar Since: Feb, 2018 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
#123700: Dec 11th 2020 at 5:29:47 PM

Bit of a random thought, but I was wondering what people's favorite MCU fight/action scene is.

Of the "big epic battle" variety, I like the Titan sequence from Infinity War with all of the varied abilities on display (especially Tony and Strange's one on ones vs Thanos). I feel like the airport battle from Civil War also deserves a mention, but I think it was outdone by sequences from Infinity War and Endgame.

For smaller scale stuff, there's of course the elevator fight in Winter Soldier. I'm more partial to the fights in the Ant-Man movies, though, particularly the car chase and kitchen fight in the sequel.


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