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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Galadriel Since: Feb, 2015
#123651: Dec 11th 2020 at 9:52:18 AM

So it looks like the first MCU releases we have upcoming are Wandavision (mid-Jan), the Falcon & the Winter Soldier (Mar) and then Loki (May or June).

The latter two are the shows I’ve been anticipating the most, so this should be fun!

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#123652: Dec 11th 2020 at 10:13:07 AM

I wonder if Sam Rockwell will be back for Armor Wars.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#123653: Dec 11th 2020 at 10:52:51 AM

I also caught Natasha in that Loki trailer, or at least someone who looks a lot like her. My brother pointed her out though. I missed her the first time I watched it.

One Strip! One Strip!
Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#123654: Dec 11th 2020 at 12:14:31 PM

And Mac is officially confirmed.

Xochitl seems fairly young for the part but I’m looking forward to her and hope she gets plenty of spotlight and showcase for all her powers. grin

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Dec 11th 2020 at 12:15:35 PM

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#123655: Dec 11th 2020 at 12:20:32 PM

Cool that she was cast. I did see on Twitter a decent amount of complaining that the actress is not Afro-Latina (Afro-Brazilian?), which seems a decent point.

Also, someone posting about that and also posting how the "real" Kate and America would beat up Zionists. Not sure what that is about.

Edited by Hodor2 on Dec 11th 2020 at 2:22:39 PM

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#123656: Dec 11th 2020 at 12:29:10 PM

America Chavez is afro-latina?

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#123657: Dec 11th 2020 at 12:30:50 PM

Well according to some random people on Twitter anyway. She is generally drawn in a way that would suggest that ancestry.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#123658: Dec 11th 2020 at 12:31:28 PM

She’s arguably (if loosely) coded Puerto Rican, which has a fair (but not guaranteed) chance of being part Black, but her look tended to flip-flop wildly in the comics from artist to artist. And I say loosely because she’s been explicit about representing all Latinx peoples of every nation.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Dec 11th 2020 at 12:32:24 PM

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#123659: Dec 11th 2020 at 12:35:21 PM

[up]You think they’re going to keep the weird alternate dimension stuff?

For his part, the original creator of the character when he did that one shot (All America Comix) made her specifically from a smaller town to contrast the Tri-State focused Avengers.

alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#123660: Dec 11th 2020 at 12:35:25 PM

Isn't she from another dimension?

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#123661: Dec 11th 2020 at 12:39:45 PM

All America Comix isn't canon to Marvel (and it's one of the most mean-spirited things I've read and its Spanish is atrocious). I expect Marvel will probably use something closer to America's canon origin, which having been born in a utopian dimension and leaving to protect all other worlds.

Since her powers are all about jumping between dimensions, Doctor Strange 2 is truly going to be a Multiverse, it seems. surprised

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Dec 11th 2020 at 12:40:36 PM

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#123662: Dec 11th 2020 at 12:53:52 PM

[up]I’ve read more mean spirited things, but I think that speaks to those authors.

At least the alternate dimension thing won’t feel so...sudden, but I think personally, given how wide the variety is of Latino origins, I would rather she was from somewhere specific and then we add to other specific places, then trying to be representative of everyone (which given the differences feels like too broad a generalization). From there it’s a matter of seeing what the writers do with her.

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#123663: Dec 11th 2020 at 1:02:58 PM

Yeah, because she's from an alternate dimension she kinda comes of as generic latina.

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Goku Black
#123665: Dec 11th 2020 at 1:36:31 PM

Good for her.

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JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#123666: Dec 11th 2020 at 1:42:33 PM

I would like to see Sif angry with alt Loki, for exiling her.

And let alt Loki's answer be something like:

"First, I didn't exile you, well Technically I did, but wasn't exactly me and second, being exiled saved your life, so you're welcome"

Edited by JoLuRo075 on Dec 11th 2020 at 1:44:01 AM

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#123667: Dec 11th 2020 at 1:43:10 PM

For a second I misread that as Jason Alexander.

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Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#123668: Dec 11th 2020 at 1:47:16 PM

Is it Loki if any Asgardian he is talking to isn't reaching for their weapons?

Wake me up at your own risk.
chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#123669: Dec 11th 2020 at 1:59:07 PM

Hey, maybe they'll acknowledge her appearances in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D..

... Oh, I made myself sad... sad

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#123670: Dec 11th 2020 at 2:00:14 PM

If wonder if Beta Ray Bill will appear as Sif’s own love though that may make the film too bloated.

Man Gorr is gonna be a trip.

Edited by slimcoder on Dec 11th 2020 at 2:00:37 AM

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
djoki996 Since: Dec, 2018
#123672: Dec 11th 2020 at 2:17:33 PM

Re: America Chavez

I've also seen people worried that they cast her that young just so they could easier gloss over the whole... y'know, being gay thing, which... isn't unlikely.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#123673: Dec 11th 2020 at 2:24:06 PM

I've wondered about that, but for obvious reasons that can only ever be temporary. We shall see.

But since America this time appears to be significantly younger than Kate Bishop, I wonder if she'll get shipped with someone else. Maybe one of the Champions? Or adapting one of her girlfriends from the comics?

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#123674: Dec 11th 2020 at 2:42:49 PM

[up] and [up][up] That also crossed my mind and is a definite concern. I guess it's possible that there will be a recast/aged up America by the time Young Avengers comes around, but yeah, having her a lot younger than Kate or Cassie suggests Hide Your Gays might be in effect.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#123675: Dec 11th 2020 at 2:57:03 PM

Are there any pictures of the actress?

I'm curious what she looks like.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."

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