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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#123376: Dec 5th 2020 at 4:12:41 PM

You know what Love And Thunder needs?

For someone to wear that winged Helmet. If Odinson doesn't want it, give it to Jane. Because that Helmet is what makes Thor Thor, and I'll brook no argument.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#123377: Dec 5th 2020 at 4:23:59 PM

I am curious if Jane is gonna get the bullet helmet.

Like Thor himself rarely wears a hammer as is so it will be curious how they handle the most iconic visual element of Jane-Thor.

Edited by slimcoder on Dec 5th 2020 at 4:26:07 AM

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#123378: Dec 5th 2020 at 4:25:23 PM

At least he got the red cape

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#123379: Dec 5th 2020 at 4:44:45 PM

[up][up] Jane only has that helmet to hide her identity, which incentivize the usage of the helm if they want to go with the secret identity route.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#123380: Dec 5th 2020 at 6:56:26 PM

Its interesting what Thor's story will be here.

Cause Jane's tenure he was pretty much depowered & did the whole "Am I worthy/strong on my own" storyline, which has already been done in Ragnarok.

Can't imagine they'll repeat the storyline for the big guy.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#123381: Dec 5th 2020 at 7:01:27 PM

I remember hearing they're keeping the "Jane has cancer" part of the story for the movie. Maybe Thor tries to transfer his powers to Jane to keep her from dying?

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#123382: Dec 5th 2020 at 7:04:14 PM

Ooooh I like that.

Thor losing his powers voluntarily as an act of pure selfless kindness.

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AmazingSpiderHam Since: Sep, 2020
#123383: Dec 5th 2020 at 7:06:31 PM

It'd be so awesome if they turned Thor into a frog thus necessiting a replacement, but... yeah, fat chance of that.

Edited by AmazingSpiderHam on Dec 5th 2020 at 7:06:45 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#123384: Dec 5th 2020 at 7:26:15 PM

Ya know if Christen Bale does turn out to be playing Gorr, with all the edgy shadow necro powers and disposition, it would be hilarious seeing him defeated by Throg of all characters.

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jakobitis Doctor of Doctorates from Somewhere, somewhen Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
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#123385: Dec 5th 2020 at 11:51:18 PM

To be fair, having a six foot frog with a blonde wig and the power of the god of thunder actually does sound like something Waititi would do, if only to mine it for all the Bathos he can.

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C105 Too old for this from France Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#123386: Dec 6th 2020 at 8:05:16 AM

[up] Seconded. After the zaniness of Ragnarok (where, among others, we saw Thor begging Stan Lee not to cut his hair), Frog-Thor would not seem out of place to me.

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#123387: Dec 6th 2020 at 9:27:06 AM

Frog Thor was referenced briefly in Ragnarok, with the implication it was an old prank Loki pulled.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#123388: Dec 7th 2020 at 7:36:41 AM

Cool detail regarding the Hawkeye series:

Hailee Steinfeld has been seen wearing a shirt that looks just like the one Kate wore in Matt Fraction' Hawkeye run.

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#123389: Dec 7th 2020 at 8:18:41 AM

Just like Kamala's actress as well as Wanda and Vision's Halloween costumes matching what they traditionally look like. I'm glad this is a consistent thing for the TV shows.

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#123391: Dec 8th 2020 at 10:56:05 AM

And Jaime Foxx is returning too.

Benedict Cumberbatch will be Doctor Strange in the film.... this is going to involve multiverses, isn't it?

To quote a Tweet I saw, "Can't we have just one Spider-Man 3 film that doesn't feel overstuffed?"

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#123392: Dec 8th 2020 at 10:57:05 AM

Happy news. [tup][awesome]

Shit if were doing sinister six now. Then we already got scorpion, Mysterio, Vulture, Electro and now Doc ock. Just needs Rhino or kraven to complete the set.

Edited by miraculous on Dec 8th 2020 at 10:57:54 AM

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#123393: Dec 8th 2020 at 10:57:10 AM

[up][up][up] Drat. I was hoping they'd put in another lesser-known Spider-Man foe, like Kraven the Hunter. Ah, well...

Edited by ClancyGardener on Dec 8th 2020 at 10:57:22 AM

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#123394: Dec 8th 2020 at 10:57:20 AM

Impossible

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#123395: Dec 8th 2020 at 10:59:41 AM

[up][up] Wasn’t their something a while ago about them casting Kraven?

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Goku Black
#123396: Dec 8th 2020 at 11:04:49 AM

Maybe their making this a lose adaption of shattered dimensions.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
Khfan429 Since: Aug, 2009
#123397: Dec 8th 2020 at 11:05:40 AM

The more people they announce for Spider-Man 3, the less enthused I am. I get why all this is unfolding, but I feel like

a) They had a perfectly good, no-multiverse-needed premise at the end of Spider-Man Far From Home with the whole "being framed for murder" thing, and while there are a bunch of different ways they could have easily fixed it, there were so many interesting possibilities that I feel won't happen if the focus has to be shared with the multiverse prospect

b) The cynic in me feels like the way they're going to solve the leaked identity problem is by having Peter and his supporting cast transplanted to whatever universe designation Sony's movies are, removing him from the broader Marvel universe in case neither company is able to play nice again.

And I hate everything about both of those points.

ClancyGardener life is a state of mind from 53 miles west of Venus Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
#123398: Dec 8th 2020 at 11:06:08 AM

Or trying to imitate Into the Spider-Verse.

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TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#123399: Dec 8th 2020 at 11:09:47 AM

[up] Or just bringing back rebooted MCU versions of already established Spider-Villains without the baggage of going over their backstories?

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#123400: Dec 8th 2020 at 11:12:06 AM

I maintain that this still doesn’t actually look like a multiverse film. What it looks like is that they’re casting classic actors for resonance’s sake, but much of the actual information we’ve gotten thus far (for example, Jamie Fox indicating that he’s not actually playing the same Electro) leans toward it not actually being multiverse related.

It’s just that the media recognizes that the theory is hyping everyone up and is thus spinning it that way, with all the fake news reports in between not helping.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Dec 8th 2020 at 11:12:43 AM


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