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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#123301: Dec 4th 2020 at 6:25:44 AM

She still thinks she didn't do anything wrong. She's basically going "I'm sorry you feel that way."

Hell with that. Non-apology passive aggressive bullshit like that really pisses me off.

Edited by M84 on Dec 4th 2020 at 10:26:23 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#123302: Dec 4th 2020 at 6:27:38 AM

There’s also a high probability she might say worse crap.

Definitely a PR nightmare for Marvel.

Edited by slimcoder on Dec 4th 2020 at 6:28:01 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#123303: Dec 4th 2020 at 6:28:09 AM

Welp

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#123304: Dec 4th 2020 at 6:28:20 AM

It'd have been better if she just didn't say anything at all when deleting the tweet.

Disgusted, but not surprised
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#123305: Dec 4th 2020 at 6:32:22 AM

Ooooh boy the perfect shit-show to cap off 2020.

We lost Chadwick & Wright’s a maniac, how lovely........

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#123306: Dec 4th 2020 at 6:38:53 AM

Somewhere out there, Feige's double facepalming himself, wondering how it came to all this.

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#123307: Dec 4th 2020 at 6:47:59 AM

[up]A once a century pandemic colliding with decades of anti-medical science nonsense designed to make people feel in control of their circumstances.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#123308: Dec 4th 2020 at 6:49:55 AM

[up] Man, 2020 was NOT kind to anyone... sad

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#123309: Dec 4th 2020 at 6:50:51 AM

Eh, Trump lost re-election. So it wasn't all bad.

Disgusted, but not surprised
C105 Too old for this from France Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Too old for this
#123310: Dec 4th 2020 at 6:55:20 AM

Has the BP franchise been cursed while we were not looking?

[up] That's about the one good thing for now, and we still have to wait a bit to be sure...

Edited by C105 on Dec 4th 2020 at 3:55:53 PM

Whatever your favourite work is, there is a Vocal Minority that considers it the Worst. Whatever. Ever!.
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#123311: Dec 4th 2020 at 6:55:21 AM

he just has to concede now.

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#123312: Dec 4th 2020 at 6:57:17 AM

Which is probably not happening.... But hey that's what the secret service are for. To drag his ass out when his term is done

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
EmeraldEmperor Lies and Violence! Since: Oct, 2020
Lies and Violence!
#123313: Dec 4th 2020 at 7:37:34 AM

So they're using Kate's mom instead of her dad, hm?

$10 says she's Madame Masque.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#123314: Dec 4th 2020 at 9:13:50 AM

Considering Kate’s mom has barely had much content in the comics (as what was clearly meant to be a long running arc about her in Kate’s solo series got crammed into a few pages of West Coast Avengers) while Masque has had a long rivalry with the Hawkeyes, combining the two seems plausible.

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#123315: Dec 4th 2020 at 10:32:26 AM

For some reason, I thought Madame Masque was an Iron Man villain.

The legend has returned.
Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#123316: Dec 4th 2020 at 10:34:09 AM

She used to be, but she’s become a recurring nemesis to the Hawkeyes since the Fraction run.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#123317: Dec 4th 2020 at 10:37:06 AM

Huh. Don't see much Rogues Gallery transplant these days.

One Strip! One Strip!
RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#123318: Dec 4th 2020 at 10:44:36 AM

She still thinks she didn't do anything wrong. She's basically going "I'm sorry you feel that way."

Hell with that. Non-apology passive aggressive bullshit like that really pisses me off.

I mean, what's someone supposed to say if they believe they did the right thing, but still want to express regret and sympathy for anyone hurt?

Assuming she genuinely believes in this conspiracy theory, then she's not acting maliciously; she's just a gullible person.

doomrider7 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#123319: Dec 4th 2020 at 10:57:38 AM

There's also the troubling history of experimental drugs being used and tested on the non-white members of the population which led to the fertility crisis in Puerto Rico several years ago amongst other incidents I believe. Don't get me wrong, I find her stance incredibly fucking stupid, but for once I can KIND OF see where she may be coming from on top of the fact that no matter what, Early vaccines will definetly have some unknown side-effects that will need ironing. In any case, I was ALWAYS in support of recasting BP so this changes little to nothing for me.

Shadao Dorzma Forever! Artwork by Kris Dobbins. (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Dorzma Forever! Artwork by Kris Dobbins.
#123320: Dec 4th 2020 at 10:58:42 AM

A sincere apology is to be needed and we need a culture that encourages more of it. The US culture seems to discourage any sincere apology, seeing it as a sign of weakness (as seen with certain people in the government).

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#123321: Dec 4th 2020 at 11:03:29 AM

I fully expect she'll post one of those stock apologies and then her media accounts will go silent for awhile

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#123322: Dec 4th 2020 at 11:13:50 AM

I think you've got it backwards. The culture encourages sincere apologies, but you can't make someone be sincere. If they don't think they did anything wrong, then even if there's public demand for them to apologize, they're not going to want to take the blame for something that, in their eyes, isn't their fault.

And it's not like using "I'm sorry" for things other than a true apology is inherently a deceitful twisting of words. It's a Stock Phrase to tell grieving people "I'm sorry for your loss", even though the person saying it is (usually) in no way responsible for their loved one's death.

ArthurEld Since: May, 2014
#123323: Dec 4th 2020 at 11:14:51 AM

I doubt Marvel cares much one way or the other.

They've never made Chris Pratt apologize, I doubt they're going to start now.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#123324: Dec 4th 2020 at 11:15:56 AM

Madame Masque is also connected to the Maggia, who are a general villainous organization rather than specifically centered on one hero.

Plus, like most Iron Man-centric villains, she eventually became an Avengers villain rather than just his.

Huh. Don't see much Rogues Gallery transplant these days.

You do with Marvel.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Dec 4th 2020 at 11:17:02 AM

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#123325: Dec 4th 2020 at 11:16:09 AM

[up][up]Companies tend to care when it immediately threatens them financially. Which I don’t think this does.

Edited by Beatman1 on Dec 4th 2020 at 11:16:18 AM


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