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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
So effective today, Marvel Studios can go right ahead and use Daredevil characters if they so want to.
Twitter's pushing hard for the Netflix show to be revived as a part of Disney+'s upcoming corner for mature content, but is that something we should expect?
As great as Charlie Cox and Vincent D'Onofrio were as DD and Kingpin, and as much as I REALLY want to see a live-action fight between Kingpin and Spider-Man, should we be prepared for full-on reboots of the characters? I doubt Feige would want to give Loeb any kind of satisfaction...
No, since legally being allowed to use the characters again and legally having control over the Netflix show itself are two different things.
They could make a new Daredevil show with the same cast, and make it clear that it's not strictly the same series, however.
Edited by KnownUnknown on Nov 29th 2020 at 2:27:25 AM
I doubt we're going to get a complete reboot, given just how popular the show is. And I'd like to think Feige isn't so petty as to reboot it just because a certain sentient pile of garbage facilitated the show's creation.
And may god have mercy on his soul, should he recast. Even the most fucked up sadists wouldn't want to see what the fans would do to him.
Disney+ recently update Black Panther's Marvel Studios Vanity Plate to honor the late
Chadwick Boseman. It features primarily clips from the aforementioned film, along with T'Challa's appearances in Civil War and Infinity War in a purple hue.
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No offense, but I already brought that up last page.
Man, it still sucks...
Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Nov 29th 2020 at 4:16:44 AM
Another factor in why a villain's Heel–Face Turn may not stick is that the heinousness of their previous crimes makes it impossible to believe they could ever be redeemed. This was one of the reasons Grant Morrison made Magneto a villain again in their New X-Men run. Then again, they also ignored/retconned Emma Frost's actions as her being on drugs so they weren't exactly consistent there.
I think it's telling that Rogue and Songbird are the only villain-turned-heroes whose redemptions stuck and their actions were comparatively small (and in Rogue's case reversible). You can have Thanos wax philosophy all you want. It won't change that he's an attempted genocidaire.
I suppose that its worth saying that when Thanos was pulling his more anti-heroic streak after Infinity Gauntlet he was mostly saving the universe because he lived in it, didn't have interest in doing good things on a smaller scale than that, and mostly just wanted to farm.
It'd be unbelievable for him to become a good guy to the point where he hung out with the Avengers or Guardians of the Galaxy like Rogue hangs out with the X-Men. But sighing and putting on his work pants every year to save the universe from another one of Adam Warlock's bad decisions was believable.
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Then again, Eddie Brock and Venom are practically poster children for Heel–Face Revolving Door.
Generally though, as long as more blatantly villainous Symbiotes and their partners are running around, Venom gets to be a sort-of-good guy.
Edited by M84 on Nov 30th 2020 at 12:39:32 AM
Disgusted, but not surprisedYeah, as....... uh executed as it was efforts to make Eddie Venom into an anti-hero started fairly early in his history so its baked into his dna, so to speak.
Which is why Carnage was created.
Forever liveblogging the AvengersInterestingly enough Eddie’s anti-hero stint is more consistent. He tries to be a decent person but generally his devolution into villainy usually involves a mental breakdown or cancer.
And even then most of his tenure is him obsessively hunting the Venom symbiote which isn’t unjustified as since he lost it it went through 3 hosts & only one was actually a good person.
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."Venom is a easier one because being severely mentally unstable is a key part of his character some way or another, so it's easy to write around with "he was not fully responsible for his actions".
Personally, unlike many, I for one like Apocalypse's heroic stint as of late, but that's mostly because of A) the novelty B) he makes a surprisingly engaging heroic figure for me (the whole "older than dirt ruthless pragmatic Social Darwinist" shtick is curious to see from a heroic angle)
"All you Fascists bound to lose."Eddie has a kid now (of sorts), as well, so that's a decent impetus enough for a writer to keep him on the side of angels.
Granted, all a writer would need to do to force him back to the villain Status Quo would be to kill off Dylan, and writers have killed off decent characters for less (or for that very reason, just ask Billy Connors who only just got back from that mess).
Edited by KnownUnknown on Nov 29th 2020 at 9:11:26 AM

At the very least, he should cameo in episode one to set up Jen's origin story.![[nja] [nja]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/user_ninja_2074.png)
Edited by Blueace on Nov 29th 2020 at 7:12:36 AM
Wake me up at your own risk.