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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

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#123026: Nov 24th 2020 at 1:36:52 PM

Since we are tossing out names for spider themed heroes, I wonder if there is an alternate continuity where Natasha is the one bitten by the spider?

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#123028: Nov 24th 2020 at 2:22:45 PM

Huh it is funny that Ghost Spider actually fits Miles better than Gwen.

Especially in the Miles game where his invisibility is constantly treated as ghosting by the mooks and he is even outright called a ghost by them.

Edited by slimcoder on Nov 24th 2020 at 2:22:59 AM

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#123029: Nov 24th 2020 at 2:32:16 PM

And Ghost Spider feels very much “you’re pushing this but it’s not catching on” with Gwen

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#123030: Nov 24th 2020 at 2:51:03 PM

[up][up] Over at the cartoon they played with her name and gave her the power to glide to the point of flying; something actual ghost spiders can do.

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#123031: Nov 24th 2020 at 4:09:32 PM

So they took something else from Jessica?

Edited by Cross on Nov 24th 2020 at 7:09:51 AM

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#123032: Nov 24th 2020 at 4:19:15 PM

Huh ironically they made Gwen change to Ghost Spider when she was originally Spider-Woman to avoid cribbing on Jess.

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#123033: Nov 24th 2020 at 5:05:38 PM

Personally, I think that if/when they add Miles it would probably be as a full-on Legacy Character, after Peter is phased out as an active hero in one way or another.

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#123034: Nov 24th 2020 at 5:06:38 PM

Ghost Spider very much comes off as trying to make fetch happen, but I get why they're adamant about it. It's not like you can actually have her go by Spider-Gwen in universe. Hilariously, it looks like on some merchandise now they're starting to give up and just call her "Gwen Stacy."

Edited by comicwriter on Nov 24th 2020 at 5:08:11 AM

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#123035: Nov 24th 2020 at 5:09:25 PM

I looked up electric and spider, thinking of Miles' venom blasts, and apparently all spiders can fly using electric current. So that's out.

I also looked up spiders and camouflaged, thinking of Miles' invisibility, and found the "Wrap Around Spider" of Australia. Which would not make a good name.

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#123036: Nov 24th 2020 at 5:18:29 PM

It’s gonna be hard coming up with just as memorable monikers for Miles & Gwen, especially since people just use their regular names to refer to them.

It’s like with Kate Bishop. When people say Hawkeye, they generally always refer to Clint while with Kate they say her name specifically. Even the Marvel’s Avengers game does it with the recent Kate Bishop trailer.

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#123037: Nov 24th 2020 at 5:20:35 PM

I don’t see any good reason for Miles to use any other moniker besides Spider-Man and to be honest I think that’s important to his character considering he’s Peter’s successor, not his sidekick.

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#123038: Nov 24th 2020 at 5:32:40 PM

One of the rough spots of shoving him into the 616 without considering his original context

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#123039: Nov 24th 2020 at 5:37:46 PM

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Funny thing about that: during Avengers: No Road Home, when an illusion of Kate Bishop showed up and started kicking Clint's ass, Rocket Racoon yelled out, oh shit! it's REAL Hawkeye! [lol]

Edited by HandsomeRob on Nov 24th 2020 at 6:38:04 AM

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#123040: Nov 24th 2020 at 5:41:14 PM

That's just going to intensify considering Clint freefalled his way into dangerous vigilante man in the comics and was framed for putting Cap in the hospital

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#123041: Nov 24th 2020 at 5:44:55 PM

Well comic-wise they love making Clint into a butt-monkey.

Though generally Kate is pretty respectful of him, Hell in the Avengers game her main motivation is basically rescuing the guy & being completely committed to it.

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#123042: Nov 24th 2020 at 8:48:26 PM

Remember in House of M when Clint was framed as being unreasonable for being furious at Wanda for murdering him?

Yeah.

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#123043: Nov 24th 2020 at 9:09:47 PM

She manslaughtered him at worse.

Nobody told him to fly a jetpack into an imaginary spaceship instead of just taking off the exploding quiver.

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#123044: Nov 24th 2020 at 10:04:41 PM

I guess the idea was that the explosion would have been too big to escape even if he did immediately drop it.

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#123045: Nov 25th 2020 at 3:18:12 AM

They could just go more derivative. Spider-Boy, Spider-Lad, Arachnid-Man, Crimson Spider, Carmine Spider, Ruby Spider.

He does work best as Peter's successor, but that requires a universe where Peter is out of the picture somehow.

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#123046: Nov 25th 2020 at 3:21:01 AM

Wonder how the Flashes managed it on the rare occasions when more than one Flash was alive and running.

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#123047: Nov 25th 2020 at 4:31:02 AM

[up]Currently, both Wally West and Barry Allen call themselves the Flash so, with that in mind, both Miles and Peter can call themselves Spider-Man.

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#123048: Nov 25th 2020 at 4:45:11 AM

Maybe Peter should be Spider-Man and Miles can be Spiderman.

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#123049: Nov 25th 2020 at 5:34:08 AM

Peter is 'The' Spider-man and Miles Spiderboy

Edited by Ultimatum on Nov 25th 2020 at 1:34:25 PM

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