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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#122901: Nov 19th 2020 at 2:10:30 PM

And yeah, good call that the MCU version of Kamala's "trenchcoat" (not sure what to call it) looks more like Carol's military clothing.

Endgame had a 5 year time skip, right? I'm betting that Carol managed to make a name for herself on Earth during that time skip and Kamala became a fan of hers around then too. (Maybe at 10 years old? Five years is a long time...)

I also wouldn't be surprised if it turns out the Khans got affected by the Snap in some capacity. Maybe Aamir (Kamala's brother) or one of her parents. (Or maybe the Snap will just be a thing in the background, like how The Mandalorian is set shortly after ROTJ, but isn't a major factor to the main plot.)

Incidentally, Ms. Marvel is filming in Atlanta around the same time and place as Spider-Man 3. It's probably just coincidence and legal shenanigans would render it as "not happening," but I would not be opposed to having Spidey make a cameo in Kamala's show... wink

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Nov 19th 2020 at 2:13:02 AM

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#122902: Nov 19th 2020 at 2:30:12 PM

Man that 5-year timeskip has a lot of interesting implications even outside of the Snap.

Rocket's been an Avenger longer than he's been a Guardian of the Galaxy. Hawkeye was off being The Punisher for longer than Frank Castle was The Punisher. NEBULA's been superheroing it up with Earth as her home base for five years.

Five years is almost as long as the Avengers itself had been around as a team.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#122903: Nov 19th 2020 at 2:31:03 PM

I still think Nebula should have stayed on Earth as an Avenger.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#122904: Nov 19th 2020 at 2:54:29 PM

Man you can make a show out of their adventures on Earth.

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Aleistar Since: Feb, 2018 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
#122905: Nov 19th 2020 at 3:45:15 PM

I feel like the timeskip would be a perfect opportunity to have a tie-in comic of some sort, to expand on it, but I doubt it'd happen.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#122906: Nov 19th 2020 at 5:17:22 PM

Huh I just now realized, since we got the Kree and Skulls involved, plus the stinger of Far From Home indicating that the Avengers/Shield are going full cosmic.

Do you find it likely that they might bring in Hulkling/Theodore "Teddy" Altman who is a Kree/Skrull hybrid & heir to the empires?

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AmazingSpiderHam Since: Sep, 2020
#122907: Nov 19th 2020 at 5:23:10 PM

Rocket's been an Avenger longer than he's been a Guardian of the Galaxy.

You know what's really funny? The MCU is by far the universe that has has had the longest stay in service of Hulk as an Avenger. In every other universe he only stays with them for a smash up or two at best before just storming off...

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#122908: Nov 19th 2020 at 5:27:50 PM

[up][up]If they bring in Billy Kaplan in WandaVision as implied in the trailers, then Teddy is quite likely, I say.

And they better be shown dating! cool

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Nov 19th 2020 at 5:28:49 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#122909: Nov 19th 2020 at 5:35:51 PM

[up] Oh yeah thats definitely one thing I am very much looking forward to in Wanda Vision.

If it sets up Wiccan and Speed then thats more signs for Young Avengers & I am most excited to see Wiccan and Hulkling brought onstage.

Goddamn power couple I tell ya. grin

Edited by slimcoder on Nov 19th 2020 at 5:36:50 AM

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#122910: Nov 19th 2020 at 5:36:56 PM

Iiiiiiii hope that they swap out Speed for Viv.

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#122911: Nov 19th 2020 at 5:45:57 PM

My guess is they'll bring in Speed to fill the empty slot of no living movie speedsters, while Viv would be saved for the Champions, which traditionally she's a part of instead of the YA.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#122912: Nov 19th 2020 at 5:47:53 PM

Well they could just composite the 2 groups. They both fill the same general niche of young heroes.

Wouldn't surprise me if Kamala becomes a member.

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#122913: Nov 19th 2020 at 5:52:30 PM

Possibly, but I'm expecting them to adapt the YA first and the Champions later because several of the latter team's key members like Miles Morales, Nadia, Riri, etc, haven't been confirmed for MCU films yet even though they seem very likely to eventually be adapted.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#122914: Nov 19th 2020 at 5:55:04 PM

It would be very unlikely for them to do both, given the similar concept.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Nov 19th 2020 at 5:55:16 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#122915: Nov 19th 2020 at 5:58:16 PM

Yeah like I can imagine them doing one but not both.

If we get either Young Avengers or Champions they will most likely just stick with one name across several line-ups.

Like a first Young Avengers movie starring the typical line-up but a future movie way in starring a traditionally Champions line-up would prolly be called Young Avengers: Next-Gen.

Edited by slimcoder on Nov 19th 2020 at 5:59:14 AM

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#122916: Nov 19th 2020 at 5:59:25 PM

I too am expecting them to merge the Young Avengers, the Champions and the Avengers Academy concepts into a single idea.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#122917: Nov 19th 2020 at 6:00:13 PM

Hell, you could go really crazy and composite Marvel's three young hero teams: New Warriors, Young Avengers, and Comic Book/Champions.

Well, ok, there's also the various teen X-Men teams, including the OG 5, but that's for when the X-Men show up.

But you could probably sneak one or two warriors (you could composite Sam and Richard a little, though), add the more popular members of the Young Avengers (Kate Bishop is already going to be in the Hawkeye show, and the twins will be a thing in Wanda Vision) then toss in Kamala, perhaps and a few other champions.

Something for everybody.

Edit: [up] Oh, I totally forgot Avengers Academy. Yeah, toss them in there as well.

Edited by HandsomeRob on Nov 19th 2020 at 7:00:53 AM

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#122918: Nov 19th 2020 at 6:00:22 PM

Speed existing is my pet peeve because why the fuck did Wanda have a kid with Pietro’s powers instead of one with Vision’s?

Rectify this, the MCU and also bring us Viv

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#122919: Nov 19th 2020 at 6:02:35 PM

Heck, they could have just let Wanda have three kids. One with her powers, one with their uncle's powers, and one with Vision's powers.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#122920: Nov 19th 2020 at 6:02:36 PM

If we do get Avengers Academy characters, I do hope we get Hazmat and Mettle...... Honestly they are all pretty good, Reptile, Finesse, Striker, Veil.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#122921: Nov 19th 2020 at 6:03:34 PM

Poor Mettle. He deserved better than to be killed by Arcade of all villains.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#122922: Nov 19th 2020 at 6:07:55 PM

And he's still not back.

Fucking Secret War rebooted the universe, brought in Miles & merged his history to the 616, & Mettle's still not brought back to life in spite all that insanity.

Feel like Kelly Thompson is the only person who bothers to remember those characters because I hear Hazmat has actually appeared in her currently ongoing Captain Marvel.

Edited by slimcoder on Nov 19th 2020 at 6:08:13 AM

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#122923: Nov 19th 2020 at 6:13:25 PM

I mean, on and off

Carol lampshades at one point that she keeps forgetting to mentor her

She did invite her to poker night though

Edited by Bocaj on Nov 19th 2020 at 9:13:47 AM

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#122924: Nov 19th 2020 at 6:16:22 PM

Hey its better than not appearing at all and being completely forgotten.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#122925: Nov 19th 2020 at 6:18:44 PM

Or being brought back just to be killed off.

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