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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#122776: Nov 12th 2020 at 12:05:12 PM

> Maybe I should finally watch that classic X-Men cartoon.

Definitely,its good like the 90s Spiderman

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Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#122777: Nov 12th 2020 at 12:09:17 PM

My head canon is still that Agents Season 1-5 are canon and that Season 6 and 7 take place in an alternate timeline in which Thanos was defeated in Wakanda (Thor aimed for the head in this timeline!), with the Snap never happening.

Edited by Forenperser on Nov 12th 2020 at 9:24:37 PM

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#122778: Nov 12th 2020 at 12:18:09 PM

That feels like the most logical way to play things.

So Coulson is once again dead, but the team carries on, probably loses a lot of people due to the snap, and then gets them back.

One Strip! One Strip!
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#122779: Nov 12th 2020 at 12:19:42 PM

When the world needs saving he'll rise from the dead again

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Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#122780: Nov 12th 2020 at 12:24:11 PM

Undoing Coulson's death in Season 5 was one of the biggest mistakes of the series.

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EmeraldEmperor Lies and Violence! Since: Oct, 2020
Lies and Violence!
#122781: Nov 12th 2020 at 12:29:34 PM

Eh. I can't really see the show working without Clark Gregg, and LMD Coulson was different enough (if still incredibly similar) that I didn't mind.

Speaking of, should the Chronicom LMD Coulson folder be moved to the bottom of the main Coulson page?

Edited by EmeraldEmperor on Nov 12th 2020 at 12:31:57 PM

Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#122782: Nov 12th 2020 at 12:30:25 PM

Don't think that's necessary, it's large enough as it is.

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C105 Too old for this from France Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Too old for this
#122783: Nov 12th 2020 at 12:42:38 PM

The sad thing with Agents of SHIELD was that, until the Snap, there had been very little in the films outright contradicting the series. Even Captain Marvel almost acknowledged that Kree blood can revive humans (at least you can choose to interpret it that way). It is especially sad considering all the effort they went through in the first season to stick to the movie universe (the ending of season 1 almost feels like a tie-in to Winter Soldier). Now I keep hoping for a small cameo or nod to the series from the future films or series, but I'm not holding my breath.

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EmeraldEmperor Lies and Violence! Since: Oct, 2020
Lies and Violence!
#122784: Nov 12th 2020 at 12:46:59 PM

At this point, it all depends on how they address Ms. Marvel's origins. If they keep her as an inhuman, they have to either address the show or completely retcon it.

Either that or the outbreak got labeled as an elaborate hoax over the past few years, or a really good mind-wiper decided to cover it up. It's unlikely, but hey. Comics.

Edited by EmeraldEmperor on Nov 12th 2020 at 12:51:55 PM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#122785: Nov 12th 2020 at 12:52:29 PM

I think they'll keep the origins of her superpowers vague for ages until they're ready to try again with the Inhumans,but it will be painfully obvious,making her a mutant has similar problems because at some point they're going to make their own Xmen

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Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#122786: Nov 12th 2020 at 12:53:51 PM

Making it a generic Mass Super-Empowering Event could work in their eyes, but the issues with that... I think I'll let someone wiser deal with that.

Edited by Blueace on Nov 12th 2020 at 5:54:26 PM

Wake me up at your own risk.
Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#122787: Nov 12th 2020 at 12:57:00 PM

I’d laugh my head off if she was retconned into being a mutant.

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#122788: Nov 12th 2020 at 1:04:29 PM

EDIT: Dangnabbit I posted in the wrong thread.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Nov 12th 2020 at 4:37:23 AM

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Goku Black
#122789: Nov 12th 2020 at 1:22:10 PM

Cool. Though I'm not sure what that has to do with this thread.

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Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#122790: Nov 12th 2020 at 1:26:54 PM

I'd like to warmly welcome Jingle Jangle to the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

123tbones Since: Aug, 2015
#122791: Nov 12th 2020 at 3:17:55 PM

Only connection to this film and the MCU is Forest Whitaker who played in Black Panther and John Debney who composed for Iron Man 2. tongue

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#122793: Nov 12th 2020 at 4:42:48 PM

Ya know with Guardians 3, I hope Moondragon & Phyla-Vell make the cut.

Especially if they keep Moondragon being Drax's daughter, that could lead to some interesting stuff.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#122794: Nov 12th 2020 at 5:14:27 PM

On the subject of Ms. Marvel's powers, the rumor is the seeds might be planted in The Falcon and the Winter Soldier since the plot allegedly involves a virus that grants some people superpowers.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#122795: Nov 12th 2020 at 5:26:29 PM

There was a brief leak of a bit of the Ms. Marvel script a while back but I didn’t see anything in it about how Kamala got her powers. Curiously, it once referred to Sam Wilson as “the Eagle”.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Nov 12th 2020 at 5:26:40 AM

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#122796: Nov 12th 2020 at 6:00:24 PM

Maybe that's what Sam's going to rebrand himself as if he takes over for Steve.

The legend has returned.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#122797: Nov 12th 2020 at 6:04:13 PM

I think American Eagle is a thing.

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#122798: Nov 12th 2020 at 6:06:01 PM

Yep, Jason Strongbow of the Navajo Nation. Notably once beat the shit out of Bullseye.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#122799: Nov 12th 2020 at 6:34:09 PM

Was also one of the many names that Not Hawkman had in Squadron Supreme

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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#122800: Nov 12th 2020 at 7:09:27 PM

Have American Eagle and Captain America ever met?


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