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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
Speaking of Doctor Doom...
A new Production Weekly is up.
Not only are Multiverse of Madness and Ms. Marvel on the list, but so is Fantastic Four!
Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Nov 11th 2020 at 4:32:57 AM
I actually like the ones from the 2000s as I think they really nailed the casting of the team, especially the Thing, and are just fun films. However I could really do with a good Doctor Doom.
Edited by Bullman on Nov 11th 2020 at 6:49:15 AM
Fan-Preferred Couple cleanup threadI've never seen the Corman one, how bad is it? So Bad, It's Good or "Oh dear lord kill it with fire?"
Huh. Might check it out, if I have free time.
Honestly, I feel a Fantastic Four movie would be pretty easy to nail as long as they don't shoehorn in Doom as the Big Bad. I've always thought an adaptation of the first arc of the Ultimate Fantastic Four would work - the Four (plus maybe Doom, if he has to be in the first movie) get powers upon traveling to the Negative Zone, and have to avoid getting murdered by Annihilus while they try to figure out how to get home.
With Doom. I fell he's better if he were built up. Maybe just have as a supporting character well normal and do a proper origin for the team with hints that doom is going down a dark path and his rivalry with Richards which is then realised in The Stinger. Setting him up for later. It allows a film to not have him as main villain too which would be refreshing.
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I don't think anything Sue does ever ages well.
If anything has been learned from the last few movies, it's that Doom shouldn't be immediately prominent. That would probably be the point of the hypothetical tv show and any appearances in the Fantastic Four movies, to build up his hatred of RICHAAAAAARDS! and evolution into (hopefully) an Avengers-level Big Bad.
Edited by EmeraldEmperor on Nov 11th 2020 at 5:19:00 AM
We apparently are, since I made the joke that this MCU FF movie would literally be the fourth one, only to have it pointed out there have been four already.
*4: I remember a bit from Jessica Alba about Sue's Disney Death scene in the second film, where she notes that they had to retake it a couple times because they wanted Sue to "die sexier."
Die sexier. Honestly. And it got me paying attention to how Sue acts in general in those movies, and yeah. Most of the things she does, even regular and innocuous actions, she does in as sexy a way as possible, albeit without being risque.
It's the thing that got me aware of how female characters are directed in action movies in general. It's not the worst example of it I can think of, but for that reason it's the thing I always think of in regards to that problem.
Huh, is Why Wont My Hips Unsway not a trope any more?
Edited by KnownUnknown on Nov 11th 2020 at 5:21:09 AM
You're looking for Hartman Hips..I think
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I have no idea if it ever existed
Edited by Ultimatum on Nov 11th 2020 at 1:22:03 PM
have a listen and have a link to my discord serverNot exactly. Hartman Hips is just about characters who are designed with very large hips. Back when it was a thing, Why Won't My Hips Unsway (unless I'm misremembering and it never existed) was about how female characters are always drawn (or directed, in live action) so that every scene of them is meant to emphasize their attractiveness, so they stand sexy, move sexy, fight sexy, are always shot in sexy poses no matter how much sense it makes, etc.
I guess it got folded into Most Writers Are Male? Or Rule of Sexy.
Edited by KnownUnknown on Nov 11th 2020 at 5:28:44 AM
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If, by some miracle, they had gotten a third movie, how do you think it would have escalated? Would they have come up with some new and exciting form of sexism, or not even bother trying to invent clever ways to undress her and just straight up apply Clothing Damage in a fight with the fucking Mole Man?
Edited by EmeraldEmperor on Nov 11th 2020 at 5:31:03 AM
It's worth nothing that, barring Romjin Stamos' Mystique, FOX's other Marvel movie franchise, that of the X-people did underplay the female sexuality seen in the comics.
Anna Paquin's Rogue is a far cry from the incredibly curvaceous woman in painted spandex from the comics up to that point, even Emma Frost was less of an incredibly predatory man-eater than she was in the comics, Kitty didn't have the somewhat troubling romance with the much older Colossus, and so on.
This was a case where the films' decision to move away from the skintight costuming toned a lot of those elements visually, and the story followed cue...
On the other hand, Wolverine became much more of a Mr. Fanservice than ever before.
Edited by AmazingSpiderHam on Nov 11th 2020 at 5:38:58 AM

He was pretty great in Avengers EMH
Pretty understated
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