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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
Technically Vision was also empowered by the Mind Stone. And it is quite possible there are a lot of characters we have not met yet who got some powers through the Stones before they were destroyed. Hydra are probably not the first who experimented on them after all.
A speedster is so much of a Story-Breaker Power that even if Pietro had been at his comic book level he would have been one of the most powerful MCU characters.
Edited by C105 on Nov 9th 2020 at 5:19:28 PM
Whatever your favourite work is, there is a Vocal Minority that considers it the Worst. Whatever. Ever!.If Pietro survived would be a good AU, especially if he ended up on the opposite side as Wanda in the Civil War thing and especially if his powers also started ramping up.
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x4 What was funny in that scene was that Pietro had taken care of explaining to Magneto he was protecting him from whiplash earlier on, but here he basically hurls statufied people around at what is probably Mach 10 and they don't get the worst for wear.
I doubt anybody in Civil War would have been able to catch up with a ramped-up Pietro, except possibly with computer assistance (so Iron Man/War Machine/Vision).
Edited by C105 on Nov 9th 2020 at 6:04:30 PM
Whatever your favourite work is, there is a Vocal Minority that considers it the Worst. Whatever. Ever!.Ironically the people that would be on his side if he did end up on the opposite side as Wanda.
Forever liveblogging the AvengersI liked Aaron Quicksilver. That scene of him moving the people out of the way of the train was great, especially how he collapsed at the end from exhaustion, that was humanizing. He also had some funny comedy moments of getting punked, like trying to grab Mjolnir mid-flight and getting yanked along with it and getting the glass floor shot out from under him with an arrow.
Eh chances are the MCU prolly would have eventually given Pietro something to work with as they have to Wanda.
Meanwhile Fox never did anything to major effect with Pietro. He didn't even get an insane action sequence in Dark Phoenix, instead being Demoted to Extra in it.
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."Yeah, I'm in that camp. I'm not the biggest fan of Whedon's character scenes, but even if it was all just to lead up to a fake-out of Hawkeye's death flags MCU Quicksilver does nevertheless get some pretty endearing character scenes whereas Fox Quicksilver was pretty one note in every appearance.
The Fox Quicksilver action scenes are really epically shot and fun to watch, but on the flipside, overindulgent superpower scenes that make the character doing them so powerful that they subsequently have to be written out of every following story aren't so great in the long run.
Fox-Quicksilver’s scenes are fun but he gets more overpowered in each. In the first he’s just moving at normal speed by his own perspective, in the second he’s zipping around from his own perspective even while already moving faster than a literal blink of an eye. No surprise he was tough to use after that.
Count me in the camp that prefers MCU Quicksilver. He was fun to watch and had neat interactions with Wanda and Clint through the movie. That scene where he saves people on the train was a highlight of that movie for me. And I think his death is ultimately well written even if it's relying on the false death flags around Hawkeye.
Fox Quicksilver has better action set pieces, but is always a one-scene wonder with very little in the way of character.
I really hope Wandavision takes advantage of the alternate reality shenanigans to bring Pietro back, even if only for the series.

It might retroactively have happened
Jane is a good candidate, since she hosted the reality goo so long
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