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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#122576: Nov 5th 2020 at 11:09:52 PM

That's one thing the MCU interpretation of Doctor Strange stuck with. Sure he's able to match the human magic users, but against Dormammu? Even with the power of the Time Stone, he can't do anything but stalemate him and endure multiple deaths.

Disgusted, but not surprised
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#122577: Nov 5th 2020 at 11:11:39 PM

And soon we shall see him outwitting nightmares.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#122578: Nov 5th 2020 at 11:56:07 PM

As in the actual Marvel demon Nightmare?

Disgusted, but not surprised
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#122579: Nov 6th 2020 at 12:02:37 AM

Yes, Nightmare is the villain of Multiverse of Madness.

C105 Too old for this from France Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Too old for this
#122580: Nov 6th 2020 at 2:58:06 AM

I would not call the Mirror Dimension useless because it has only been used against cosmic threats so far. It is mostly a case of The Worf Effect.

I'm having a hard time establishing the scale of power between Wanda, Carol and Strange. In terms of raw power, Carol and Wanda are way ahead (in that order), but Strange is much more versatile in the use of his powers. Wanda in particular may have trouble overcoming someone who can teleport her on the other side of the planet again and again (that would work against Carol too but Strange had better aim for the other side of the galaxy if he wants this to stick for a while).

Edited by C105 on Nov 6th 2020 at 11:58:30 AM

Whatever your favourite work is, there is a Vocal Minority that considers it the Worst. Whatever. Ever!.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#122581: Nov 6th 2020 at 2:59:26 AM

No. Please. No power level discussions.

Disgusted, but not surprised
C105 Too old for this from France Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Too old for this
#122583: Nov 6th 2020 at 3:11:25 AM

I thought that was the rat from Endgame (at least until they give Squirrel Girl a MCU appearance).

Whatever your favourite work is, there is a Vocal Minority that considers it the Worst. Whatever. Ever!.
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#122584: Nov 6th 2020 at 3:37:51 AM

> No. Please. No power level discussions.

Squirrel girl can beat them all anyway

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#122585: Nov 6th 2020 at 3:39:11 AM

Squirrel Girl's both a joke character and, if one squints, a sendup of the whole power level thing.

Disgusted, but not surprised
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#122586: Nov 6th 2020 at 4:13:27 AM

Basically the wackier you are, the more likely you'll beat characters out of your tier-list.

Now thats the real power level.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#122587: Nov 6th 2020 at 4:38:09 AM

What does nightmare have to do with the multiverse ?

Was expecting shuma garath if were going with that ?

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Role Model
#122588: Nov 6th 2020 at 5:42:21 AM

Luis may not be the strongest MCU character, but he is one of the best.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#122589: Nov 6th 2020 at 7:13:02 AM

What does nightmare have to do with the multiverse ?

Nightmare resides in the Dream Dimension, which is evidently going to be a major location in the film.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#122590: Nov 6th 2020 at 12:12:28 PM

I mean Luis can defeat his opponents in a single punch. Not many of the other MCU heroes can boast that, not even Hulk.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#122591: Nov 6th 2020 at 12:23:28 PM

One Punch Man, Million Word Stories

AmazingSpiderHam Since: Sep, 2020
#122592: Nov 6th 2020 at 6:23:02 PM

Didn't Hulk onepunch that giant space snake thingy in the first Avengers film?

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#122593: Nov 6th 2020 at 6:40:27 PM

Hell yeah he did.

Six years later, and my favourite part is still that one Chitauri taking off his mask.cool

He clearly thinks he must have imagined the big green dude planting his fist in their space whale's face.

One Strip! One Strip!
JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#122594: Nov 6th 2020 at 7:42:17 PM

How to forget when the Leviathans were so tough that only Hulk and Thor could defeat them in direct battles. (While Iron Man had to use Jonas's strategy to defeat one.)

Edited by JoLuRo075 on Nov 6th 2020 at 7:42:31 AM

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#122595: Nov 7th 2020 at 7:29:24 AM

Well, it was the first time they'd deal with them.

The team has had many years to improve their tech, their strategies, etc.

They were also fighting Leviathans that were probably only as strong as the ones they fought back then too.

One Strip! One Strip!
miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#122596: Nov 7th 2020 at 8:49:33 AM

So Last Season is a thing.

Tons of works have a bad guy type in the beginning be a super challenge but then after escalation and training. The heroes mow them down easily later.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#122597: Nov 7th 2020 at 11:31:06 AM

Like Corvus, who in Infinity War could beat several Dora Mileage at the same time, beat Shuri easily and fight at the same level as Captain America, while in Endgame he is killed in 5 seconds by a Badass Normal.

Edited by JoLuRo075 on Nov 7th 2020 at 11:35:31 AM

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#122598: Nov 7th 2020 at 11:38:01 AM

That version of Corvus might be weaker than the one in Infinity War. He is from earlier in his own timeline.

One Strip! One Strip!
JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#122599: Nov 7th 2020 at 11:40:28 AM

Also, there was a time when Loki was considered a real threat.

KJMackley Since: Jan, 2001
#122600: Nov 7th 2020 at 11:41:09 AM

Different circumstances matter too. Overspecialization and overconfidence are dangerous things. Any given fight can end with one bad move or one good move.


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