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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
One problem with "Girl power" is that with the exception of Wanda, all the girls are much weaker than Carol who just five minutes ago had destroyed a giant ship.
That is, Valkyria is probably is the third in power, and is only a little stronger than Squishy Wizard Loki.
My point is that even the third strongest member of the group is much weaker than Carol.
So their dialogue, in which they say that they are going to support her loses a lot of strength.
Like I said before, Carol got through a ship without a hitch. A group of Mooks led by Corvus would not be a problem for her.
Edited by JoLuRo075 on Nov 5th 2020 at 12:33:05 PM
Not really.
They very clearly clear a path and if she hadn't sped past them, she could have definitely used their help dogpiling Thanos.
Forever liveblogging the AvengersTier list of MCU women:
- Captain Marvel, Scarlet Witch (actually, no male heroes occupy this tier currently, they're both the only characters to ever cleanly overpower Thanos, the only person who might come close is Captain America with Mjolnir)
- Rescue, Valkyrie (Valkyrie is stronger than Loki, but Rescue should be stronger than Avengers-era Iron Man)
- Gamora, Nebula (strength is somewhat unclear, definitely superhuman going by Guardians 2 feats), Wasp (if she ever goes Giant-Woman, though, she moves up a tier)
- Okoye, Shuri, Mantis (Badass Normal, ignoring Mantis's insanely powerful mental manipulation which is hard to put in a tier list)
Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Nov 5th 2020 at 1:40:23 PM
That's not saying much, a direct fight between Iron Man from the first movie and the Hulk would also have been a one-sided beating.
Shuri in the previous movie was easily defeated by Glass Cannon Corvus, so I wouldn't put her that high.
Edited by JoLuRo075 on Nov 5th 2020 at 12:50:27 PM
Shuri’s got a higher ceiling of potential given her tech-based powers and likelihood of getting her own Vibranium suit, so I expect her to jump up one or two tiers.
Also Monica Rambeau is on her way as of WandaVision and she’s easily A+ tier in the comics.
Edited by Tuckerscreator on Nov 5th 2020 at 12:48:29 PM
They very clearly clear a path and if she hadn't sped past them, she could have definitely used their help dogpiling Thanos.
Exactly. Carol was able to focus on going for the time machine because she wasn't wasting time dealign with the mooks, who don't need to stop her, just knock the glove out of her hands.
One Strip! One Strip!Loki is actually clever enough to avoid direct physical confrontations whenever he can and switch to illusions and mindgames. On that side only Black Widow has been able to best him, and Thor in Ragnarok.
Whatever your favourite work is, there is a Vocal Minority that considers it the Worst. Whatever. Ever!.And widow just catch him for a moment and it was pointless: Loki just use mind control clint to invade the helicarrier and carry out is plan.
There is also him vs thor in the first movie were thor used the power of is hammer to beat is ilusion.
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"Shuri would go up if she got a full suit, but she's certainly quite low-tier for now.
In a full movie this could be helped by just having a less direct threat, though, and a plot which requires other skills. Shuri in particular is defined more by her intelligence.
It occurs to me that if we do get an A-Force movie, it will probably have very little roster overlap with the actual comics A-Force (the smaller second roster, not the absurdly large first roster). Captain Marvel, yes, and She-Hulk maybe, but I feel like Medusa and Nico Minoru are unlikely as they've already been used in the tv shows. Dazzler could theoretically be introduced, though tragically we wouldn't get Dazzler Thor. Singularity would be a longshot, as she's a pretty out-there idea ("a sentient quantum singularity).
Medusa is unlikely. Pretty sure after the mess that was inhumans. Marvel will stay away from them from now on. Only possible expection being miss marvel (kamala khan) and thats if they dont decide for a different origin.
"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."Marvel has apparently said they are taking a break from the Inhumans for five years, and were in year three of that break.
It was mentioned in the main marvel comics thread, but it was a few pages back. I may try to dig it up for everyone.
One Strip! One Strip!Alright. I found the post in the Marvel Comics thread.
So it's just a CBR post, and there's no real confirmation, but Marvel taking a break from the Inhumans might not be such a poor idea. Permulter's determination to push them shit the pot badly and tainted the brand, and Marvel's gonna have to think long and hard on how they'll bring them back.
One Strip! One Strip!

For me the issue is less the scene itself and more how the rest of the film sidelines and underutilizes said women, on top of other issues like the infamous “Manpain Stone”. So to suddenly highlight them out of the blue in a seemingly “feminist moment” feels disingenuous compared to the rest of the movie (and largely MCU as a whole) revolving exclusively around men.
A feature film could avert some of those issues provided the characters are given room to form genuine bonds and interesting arcs, but that should come with future films giving them much more focus than the MCU often flip-flops on.