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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#122476: Nov 2nd 2020 at 6:58:10 PM

Mmmmmmagic

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#122477: Nov 2nd 2020 at 7:03:41 PM

I just want Vision to come back from the dead because goddamn Wanda has gone through way too much shit.

The legend has returned.
Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#122478: Nov 2nd 2020 at 7:06:27 PM

Since the day Vision was brought to life so linked to the Infinity Stone in the MCU, I (and everybody else) knew Thanos would kill him, but I wish they had it echo his last chat with Ultron with Thanos laying out his grand plan to save mankind (or woo Death, as it was once thought it'd be) and Vision simply commenting "You're unbearably naive."

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AmazingSpiderHam Since: Sep, 2020
#122479: Nov 2nd 2020 at 7:14:41 PM

If they introduced Wonder Man they could have a reversal from the comics and make Vision put his mind in a dying Simon instead, but that has the potential to get really creepy really fast.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#122480: Nov 2nd 2020 at 7:17:13 PM

[up][up] Ooo that would have been good

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Role Model
#122481: Nov 2nd 2020 at 7:42:11 PM

I know, right? Literally engineering new life forms out of rage just because you lost a couple Harbulary batteries.

Edited by wanderlustwarrior on Nov 2nd 2020 at 9:42:52 AM

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#122482: Nov 2nd 2020 at 7:45:47 PM

The movie did make a point of establishing how petty and immature the Sovereign are. For crying out loud, the way they pilot their drone fighters is very much styled like an arcade.

Besides, it's not just the batteries themselves. It's the fact that said batteries were stolen from them. The Sovereign are trying to send a message of "Don't fuck with the Sovereign".

Edited by M84 on Nov 2nd 2020 at 11:46:59 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#122483: Nov 2nd 2020 at 7:54:03 PM

They lost a lot of fighters trying to kill the Guardians.

Lots of wasted resources.

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Look, just be decent to one another ok?
#122484: Nov 2nd 2020 at 7:57:25 PM

Not to mention Rocket being a transparent asshole to them even aside from the theft.

Edited by AyyItsMidnight on Nov 2nd 2020 at 7:57:49 AM

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This is going to be so much fun.
#122485: Nov 2nd 2020 at 8:32:32 PM

It's really weird that we got a Warlock tease... but isn't involved in Thanos at all. And it's doubly awkward especially when Thanos and Warlock are like friends.

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#122486: Nov 2nd 2020 at 10:48:55 PM

[up][up][up][up]I know it's more the principle of being stolen from than it is the actual grievance of losing the batteries, but it's still funny.

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#122487: Nov 3rd 2020 at 12:57:32 AM

[up][up]More Worthy Opponents than friends, thorough they have teamed up a number of times.

As for his origin, Adam’s creation doesn’t involve Thanos at at all. He in fact predated Thanos by several years.

chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#122488: Nov 3rd 2020 at 1:57:34 PM

As much fun as it would to feature Adam Warlock and Thanos together, I'm not sure how well it would've worked. Infinity War had to build up Thanos's motivations and what he's capable of. Having to do that with Warlock too would've probably made the film more bloated, having to basically build his character from the ground up along with making him a major player.

Maybe if they introduced in him Endgame and have him be involved with reversing the Snap, that could work. But one thing about the Infinity Trilogy of comics is that Adam Warlock and Thanos are the main characters. The Avengers are basically supporting characters used to demonstrate the cosmic scale of the story's events. And it works for those stories, but it probably wouldn't work to have an Avengers movie where the Avengers are not really the main characters.

JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#122489: Nov 3rd 2020 at 2:20:43 PM

I imagine Adam Warlock is going to appear in the third Guardians movie, being the fake antagonist who teams up with the heroes to defeat the real villain.

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#122490: Nov 3rd 2020 at 3:45:28 PM

Be funny if he started as a fake villain before becoming the real villain

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#122491: Nov 3rd 2020 at 4:30:13 PM

[up][up][up][up]I know about how Warlock is older, just thinking how he was major in the comic book Infinity Gems plot. Now that I think about it, so was Gamorah.

chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#122492: Nov 3rd 2020 at 4:44:39 PM

What Adam Warlock is the fake-out villain and the real villain? The Magus anyone?

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#122493: Nov 3rd 2020 at 5:05:22 PM

[up][up] Oh man was it weird reading Infinity Gauntlet and seeing how different Gamora was.

Edited by slimcoder on Nov 3rd 2020 at 5:05:30 AM

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Former King
#122494: Nov 3rd 2020 at 6:06:06 PM

How different are we talking? On the same level as Yondu, who used to be a Space Native American stereotype?

The legend has returned.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#122495: Nov 3rd 2020 at 6:14:17 PM

She's pretty much just the chick.

Like she doesn't actually appear much but she's basically the girlfriend sidekick to Adam. I'm not even sure if she can fight.

Nebula though amusingly is pretty in-character even if she looks completely different than how she does in the movies. tongue

Edited by slimcoder on Nov 3rd 2020 at 6:16:30 AM

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AmazingSpiderHam Since: Sep, 2020
#122496: Nov 3rd 2020 at 7:23:55 PM

Maybe someone could be actually trying to resurrect Thanos and you could give Warlock the task of preventing that.

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This is going to be so much fun.
#122497: Nov 3rd 2020 at 11:34:09 PM

[up][up]I thought Nebula was more or less proactive and slightly on the evil side. Although yeah she did manage to hold the gauntlet in the MCU but unlike in the film she actually wore it and went full crazy.

Edited by Ookamikun on Nov 4th 2020 at 3:34:47 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#122498: Nov 3rd 2020 at 11:37:21 PM

[up] I meant more that the movies actually kept the whole complex love/hate father/daughter thing.

Sure its extremely different but the spirit is sorta there so Nebula & Thanos's relationship is one of the more recognizably intact concepts from the comic.

Especially since like in the comic Nebula was vital in the defeat of Thanos.

Edited by slimcoder on Nov 3rd 2020 at 11:37:48 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
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#122499: Nov 4th 2020 at 2:14:18 AM

Marvel’s A-Force: ‘Black Panther’s’ Letitia Wright Claims It Is ‘Only a Matter of Time’ Before Fans Get an All-Female Avengers Movie

Rumors of an all-female Avengers squad known as Marvel’s A-Force have been swirling ever since that memorable moment in Avengers: Endgame that featured every female MCU character from Brie Larson’s Captain Marvel to Gwyneth Paltrow’s Pepper Potts as Rescue. Both Larson and Scarlett Johansson have voiced their support for an A-Force movie. And now, Black Panther’s Letitia Wright (Shuri) says it’s “only a matter of time” before fans get an all-female Avengers.

Wright has actively campaigned to Feige and Marvel exec Victoria Alonso for an all-female Avengers movie. But she says there is no need to fight for it anymore because it’s inevitable.

“I don’t think we have to fight for it,” Wright says. “Victoria Alonso is very strong about spearheading it, alongside Kevin. It’s only a matter of time before they do it.”

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#122500: Nov 4th 2020 at 2:20:31 AM

Well shit we getting A-Force movie?

Should turn out better than the comic which suffered from plenty issues, biggest of which being the one that plagues any team book. Why are these characters (who are pretty disparate) all working together as a team?

Edited by slimcoder on Nov 4th 2020 at 2:20:59 AM

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