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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
RE Disney, I periodically check out Simu Liu's Twitter, in part because I'm really stoked for Shang Chi, and it kind of seems like there must be some kind of non-disparagement contract clause about Disney properties.
Although he has liked several of things throwing shade on the live action Mulan, and to a very limited extent posted something with an unfavorable there's a conspicuous absence of him posting anything outright negative himself. And in one case, pushing back on a story that called attention to him making a very minor negative comment.
So, I wouldn't be all that surprised if Oscar Isaac had to walk back his anti-Star Wars comments.
Egyptian director Mohamed Diab is directing
Moon Knight!
For reference, Diab previously directed a drama/thriller film called Clash
back in 2016.
Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Oct 27th 2020 at 4:07:17 AM
Except it hasn't been ignored, the Hulk books pretty much has stuck with it.
Hell, it has basis in canon. Hulk has been at his most dangerous when he has been cut off from Banner. It's why Jean shut off Banner so Hulk could go all out against Onslaught.
But as it was point out in Immortal Hulk, it only the case with Savage Hulk. Banner can't really hold back Devil Hulk from killing people.
Onslaught? Sonds like a edgy metal band and the final boss of Marvel vs Capcom, which was an OG character from the game and not a villian from a bad comicbook.
There is indeed a band called Onslaught.
Edited by AyyItsMidnight on Oct 28th 2020 at 6:28:41 AM
Self-serious autistic trans gal who loves rock/metal and animation with all her heart. (she/her)Hulk has been killing people in the Aaron run, which came right after Pak's, and IIRC also in the Waid run afterwards and team books also never went with that.
One way or the other, it was a stupid idea is what I'm saying.
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One difference that really stood out to me was how the two Bullseyes treated men of the cloth. Farrell's Bullseye - who is arguably the most monstrous of the two - refused to kill a priest while Netflix Bullseye seemed to have no issue with Father Lantom being collateral damage.
Edited by windleopard on Oct 29th 2020 at 1:41:57 AM
Yeah while 2003 Bullseye is straight from the comics in pretty much every other regard.
A remorseless, psychopathic hitman for hire who does what he does because of the sheer fun of it.
Certified: 48.0% West Asian, 6.5% South Asian, 15.8% North/West European, 15.7% English, 7.4% Balkan, 6.6% ScandinavianComics Bullseye even claims that he could be richer than Norman Osborne because he almost never spends the money he gets from contract killing. He only charges high prices just to see how much people are willing to pay for his services. His "work" is its own reward.
The worst part is that comics Bullseye is a Karma Houdini since there's always someone who wants to hire him for his skill-set. Even after Matt killed him, he was revived by the Hand and (eventually) was restored to full strength.
Edited by M84 on Oct 29th 2020 at 4:53:41 PM
Disgusted, but not surprisedBullseye has the classic Joker Immunity.
No matter how heinous his deeds, no matter how many times he seemingly finally gets his just desserts, the writers always save him.
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That's one plus of the movies. There's no incentive to keep villains alive. Quite the opposite really.
Granted, some comicbook movies keep the villains alive for future installments. Fox's X-Men notably never quite got around to killing off Magneto or Mystique. And while the MCU itself killed off villains left and right, it took several movies for Loki to finally bite the dust.
Edited by M84 on Oct 29th 2020 at 5:10:19 PM
Disgusted, but not surprisedI find Bullseye is a lot more tolerable than the Joker since writers are more willing to show how helpless he is against people with super powers or better skills rather than portraying him as an invincible murder god who wins just by staying alive. A victory against Bullseye feels like an actual victory while beating the Joker just feels depressing because the writers don't offer any actual catharsis.
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And by that point, it was debatable whether he counted as a villain any more (which is why I'm a bit miffed by his death, since I'd loved to see where they were going with his character).
Edited by C105 on Oct 29th 2020 at 10:23:37 AM
Whatever your favourite work is, there is a Vocal Minority that considers it the Worst. Whatever. Ever!.Amusingly DD season 3 ended with DD permanently defeating Fisk without having to kill him at all.
He beat him so truly & finitely that Fisk is left with nothing & all he has to look forward too is to rot in jail.
Goes to show ya ya don’t need to kill them to put them down.
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I also like how they are just honest that Bullseye is nothing more than a depraved killer while Joker tends to get a lot of unnecessary grandstanding about himself.
Edited by slimcoder on Oct 29th 2020 at 2:28:18 AM
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."Yeah Daredevil Season 3's defeat of Fisk was very epic.
Matt beat him in every way possible. Not only did he destroy his criminal empire, he also did not let the bastard destroy who he was and made sure he'd rot in jail without ever getting together with the one person he wants to be close to.
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Technically his last comic book role was Miguel O'Hara in the stinger for Spider-Verse.