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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

jakobitis Doctor of Doctorates from Somewhere, somewhen Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Doctor of Doctorates
#121626: Oct 3rd 2020 at 4:17:20 AM

Comics Electro is interesting as a character inasmuch as he's an idiot when it comes to his true potential. He could be someone on the level of Magneto, a team wrecker and literally global threat... Instead he's a walking bug zapper.

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Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#121627: Oct 3rd 2020 at 6:10:37 AM

I did take Michael Clarke Duncan into account, but it's almost been 20 years, so I think it's fair to give him another shot.

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AmazingSpiderHam Since: Sep, 2020
#121628: Oct 3rd 2020 at 6:25:11 AM

Edit: Never mind, I misunderstood something.

Edited by AmazingSpiderHam on Oct 3rd 2020 at 6:25:54 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#121629: Oct 3rd 2020 at 6:43:32 AM

Huh I wonder if we'll ever get that X-Force movie.

[up][up] Shame he passed away, R.I.P.

Edited by slimcoder on Oct 3rd 2020 at 6:44:15 AM

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#121630: Oct 3rd 2020 at 10:45:25 AM

[up]*4: I like that about comics Electro. He's a showy, insecure punk who landed himself great power, yet will never reach his true potential because he never stops thinking like a showy, insecure punk.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Oct 3rd 2020 at 10:45:59 AM

chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#121631: Oct 3rd 2020 at 10:52:26 AM

Spider-Man: The Animated Series showed just how dangerous Electro could be if he was actually competent.

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#121632: Oct 3rd 2020 at 11:12:02 AM

Electro being Red Skull's son and Chameleon's brother will never not be so stupidly awesome.

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#121633: Oct 3rd 2020 at 11:39:51 AM

The idea of Red Skull having a kid is about as weird a concept as Palpatine having a kid, not gonna lie.

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#121634: Oct 3rd 2020 at 11:45:51 AM

Darksied has son too,a Big Bad having children is fairly common

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#121635: Oct 3rd 2020 at 12:13:12 PM

It's not the bad guy having a kid that's weird so much as the realization that someone had to fuck that.

Falcon and Winter Soldier looks to be finished filming in Atlanta, and is finally heading to Prague for those scenes they were supposed to do earlier in the year before COVID hit.

Edited by comicwriter on Oct 3rd 2020 at 12:27:47 PM

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#121636: Oct 3rd 2020 at 12:16:15 PM

They almost adapted Sin daughter of the Red Skull into the MCU One Shots at one point.

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#121637: Oct 3rd 2020 at 12:30:43 PM

[up][up] Guess some women are just into murderous bigots with weird skin conditions.

Electro pretty much has to be an idiot given the vast difference in power between him and Spider-Man. If he were a Fantastic Four or Avengers villain he'd be both powerful and smart.

Edited by windleopard on Oct 3rd 2020 at 12:30:56 PM

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Goku Black
#121638: Oct 3rd 2020 at 12:31:51 PM

I thought skull just has a mask. Or at least in the comics. His skull isn't like biological

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#121639: Oct 3rd 2020 at 12:37:13 PM

Nope. He is disfigured. Beats the Ultimate version where he predated the New 52 Joker.

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Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#121640: Oct 3rd 2020 at 12:37:30 PM

It used to be a mask, later it became his actual face.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#121641: Oct 3rd 2020 at 12:43:00 PM

Similar to Zemo's thing.

[up][up] Ooooh boy Ultimate Red being Cap's son.

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Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#121642: Oct 3rd 2020 at 12:44:57 PM

Ultimate Skull actually had a tragic streak to himself.

Not what you'd expect from the character.

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miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#121643: Oct 3rd 2020 at 12:49:28 PM

Yeah he gets a surprisingly sad Alas, Poor Villain send off where it's revealed that he just wanted to use the Cosmic Cube to go back in time, prevent Cap from freezing, and then his parents (Steve and his then sweetheart, Gail) could marry and raise him themselves since he utterly loathed his life forced to be a solder even from a young age.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#121644: Oct 3rd 2020 at 12:53:24 PM

He was a depraved son of a bitch though.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#121645: Oct 3rd 2020 at 12:57:26 PM

Oh yeah that he is. Dude is a depraved fucker. I'm just saying the two options don't need to be mutually exclusive in fiction.

Edited by miraculous on Oct 3rd 2020 at 12:57:42 PM

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#121646: Oct 3rd 2020 at 1:07:31 PM

In his case it was at least more understandable than with other people, as his big plan was undoing all of this.

He basically thought "Fuck it, nothing here will exist for much longer anyway, why should I not use every method available to achieve my goal?".

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#121647: Oct 3rd 2020 at 1:08:31 PM

Which comic did he appear in?

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Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#121648: Oct 3rd 2020 at 1:14:36 PM

From "Ultimate Comics Avengers" Vol 1 Issue 1 to Issue 6.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#121649: Oct 3rd 2020 at 1:15:57 PM

Was that apart of the Ultimate line's decline?

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Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#121650: Oct 3rd 2020 at 1:18:44 PM

Depends on who you ask. It was Post-Loeb, which was definitely the lowest phase.

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