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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
Admittedly this is part of what has me worried for this lady. It’s a whopper for her first role and you just know she is going to be examined head to toe for anything she may have said or done that can be exploited, especially from the people who would rather Ms. Marvel not be made. (You know, jerks).
Edited by Beatman1 on Sep 30th 2020 at 7:13:51 AM
What we need to do is gather around her, with our fists held out, so that all the assholes trying to bum rush her run straight into said fists.
That's how we protect her from anyone trying to take shots.
...or for a more sane solution, just show our support, but reasonably so.....but just to be clear, since they are running into our fists, we technically aren't punching them.
....Also, feel free to wear sap gloves, brass knuckles and metal gauntlets....you know, for show.
Had to do some repair work on your sentence. But don't worry, it didn't require much. Carry on.
One Strip! One Strip!Twist to the Letterboxd saga
: Iman gave Captain Marvel the movie 2 stars, but clarified she genuinely admires Brie Larson herself.
Edited by Tuckerscreator on Sep 30th 2020 at 5:05:01 AM
Groot is an adorable murderer. He has no compunctions about killing whatsoever.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"Captain Marvel is the most well-done superhero origin movie in the MCU... which is also its greatest weakness as they stopped being interesting five years ago. I did find the film's aesop about gaslighting to be genuinely compelling and original, despite most of everything else about it being being polished-yet-bland, in the same way that the Disney live action remakes tend to be.
Edited by AlleyOop on Sep 30th 2020 at 8:57:09 AM
Yeah. We all know Carol would have won that fight no matter what.
She did too. That's what makes her blasting him so great.
It was Yon-Rogg's hail mary: a last desperate attempt to salvage the situation that he likely expected to end with his death (either by Carol, or as he later explains, the Supreme Intelligence), but she just Lol!Noped him out of that.
Maybe he'd have put up a fight since they sparred together, but he likely would have lost.
One Strip! One Strip!Yeah, the point is that Carol kept agreeing to play by Yon-Rogg's rules: control your emotions, fight "man to man", discipline and submission. It's all part of a play to establish himself as the dominant force in the relationship. By blasting him, she shows that she has no need of his rules and especially his approval.
Edited by Fighteer on Sep 30th 2020 at 10:12:26 AM
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"Yeah, that was a great moment. The hero needing to prove themself by battling their Evil Mentor on a completely even playing field is definitely an idea floating around in public consciousness, but upon thinking about it for more than a second the suggestion that Carol's victory "won't count" unless she holds back is ridiculous and Yon-Rogg is clearly only suggesting it because he thinks it would give him a fighting chance.
Would it have actually given him a fighting chance? Considering we've seen Carol No-Sell hits from Thanos and I don't think that's an "ability" that she can "turn off"... I don't think Carol could have lost a fight against Yon-Rogg even if she was trying to lose.
That's just the denouement, though. Sort of a fake climax. A lot of people miss that the real climax is Carol's confrontation with the Supreme Intelligence. That's when she unlocks her true power. At that point the conflict is over, save a few minutes of sparring and photon blasts.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"I think Carol could sort of "de-power" if she wanted.
But that's the point, fighting Yon-Rogg on his rules is silly.
"The hero gives away their advantage to fight the villain because it's the fair thing" has always been poor storytelling. Except for the times when the hero loses and learns that leaning into their strengths is a good thing.
Edited by ArthurEld on Sep 30th 2020 at 7:30:12 AM
I remember years ago someone expressing annoyance that Steve in The Winter Soldier actually fought Batroc on the latter's terms instead of just smacking him aside. Granted, that fits completely with Steve's character (this is a guy who in the comics is so honorable that when put on trial he hired Matt Murdock to represent the prosecution against himself), but Carol actually delivered the goods years later of not bothering with a petty demand for a "fair fight".
Edited by Tuckerscreator on Sep 30th 2020 at 8:01:04 AM
I think Batroc gets a pass just because he was a Starter Villain. Though he does have a Small Role, Big Impact of sorts in the plot, he's mostly just there to show off the cool Cap and Widow stuff that Cap and Widow do.
I love him for it, though. Imo, more superhero movies should have that. Introduce the hero fighting a supervillain who doesn't have much stake in the story but would make a great showcase of the hero's abilities or status quo, and who otherwise wouldn't be adapted.
I think, for instance, the next Spider-Man movie should begin with something like a montage of Spidey doing heroics while Jameson narrates/misreports the truth. "THEY SAY SPIDER-MAN'S BEEN ROOTING AROUND IN THE SEWERS, LIKE A RAT!" - show Spider-Man fighting Vermin or Lizard. "SPIDER-MAN, RESPONSIBLE FOR A CITY WIDE BLACKOUT!" - show Spidey fighting Electro. "SPIDER-MAN'S BEEN SEEN CORRUPTING THE YOUTH!" - show Spidey rescuing some kids from a disaster. Etc.
@Fighteer - I love you use of the terms "discipline" and "submission" (that sounds kind of dirty). I'd like to write an essay which would probably reference The Taming of the Shrew about how the movie skewers the sexist implications of Female Fighter, Male Handler.
In terms of the film overall, I"d rate it well above two stars myself, but I think there is a certain weakness to the movie because of the very clever and well-done twist involving the Skrulls. It creates a situation (especially noticeable in the trailers) where the movie has to pretend to be serious, because Carol and Nick think they are in a serious alien invasion story, and the movie is at its best once every one, the audience included, is in on the joke.
I guess in fairness to Steve, the fight actually ends faster once he stops using the shield and just focuses on kicking Batroc's ass.
He gets a lot more aggressive when he's not focused on blocking.
Forever liveblogging the Avengers

I found the feminist packaging intriguing, partly because we haven't gotten a real "girl power" superhero film in a while (if ever — Wonder Woman was definitely good but struck a very different tone, being a Gender Flip of Superman more than anything), and partly out of sheer joy at how many people it pissed off in the world. The angry ranting by all the Chads out there warmed my flinty heart.
Again, nothing wrong with WW. Loved it. Gal Godot nailed the part and Diana's empowerment was obvious.
What I loved about Carol, though, was that she literally couldn't be arsed with the condescension. Just bulled right through it, even though she suffered consequences for being so stubborn. Very much like Brie Larson who is and was a case study in shits and the not giving thereof.
Edited by Fighteer on Sep 30th 2020 at 7:14:41 AM
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"