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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

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#121351: Sep 25th 2020 at 10:11:33 AM

It's a shame as the cast did seem like they were trying but it was ruined by the shitty writing plus weird designated hero / designated villain thing going on.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#121353: Sep 25th 2020 at 10:14:57 AM

They should read up on some Roman court politics nonsense and done I, Maximus or something

Instead of the weird thing they did do

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Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#121354: Sep 25th 2020 at 10:28:35 AM

I wonder if this is the first TV series Samuel L. Jackson has ever done as the main character.

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C105 Too old for this from France Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Too old for this
#121355: Sep 25th 2020 at 10:28:42 AM

[up][up][up] That would be awesome, but I hope it won't be called "Nick Fury: Agent of SHIELD" as a large middle finger to AoS fans.

Edited by C105 on Sep 25th 2020 at 7:28:54 PM

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Goku Black
#121356: Sep 25th 2020 at 10:48:11 AM

I'm pretty sure down the road well see an eventual discontinuity nod to agents of shield in the films /new shows. With Disney trying to tie their shows to their films more and agents is uh....weird discontinuity

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#121357: Sep 25th 2020 at 10:48:24 AM

Finally, Nick Fury can kick ass instead of being a glorified side character.

Still annoyed he didn't have a laser eye from his eyepatch. XD.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Sep 25th 2020 at 1:48:47 PM

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Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#121358: Sep 25th 2020 at 10:51:09 AM

I predict it will be a prequel set between Captain Marvel and Thor and will be about Fury overcoming his fear of cats.

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Goku Black
#121359: Sep 25th 2020 at 10:52:07 AM

He'll have to fight a race of evil catfolk.

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TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#121360: Sep 25th 2020 at 11:01:17 AM

From what I've been reading, while Fury is the lead, this show might be more about S.W.O.R.D. than anything. Probably to fill in some blanks regarding the Skrulls in case Captain Marvel 2 ends up being Secret Invasion.

Might it be called Agents of S.W.O.R.D.? Or would that be too on the nose?

I still wonder if MCU!S.W.O.R.D. will operate via two separate brigades: one for Earth to pretty much be S.H.I.E.L.D. 2.0 minus the HYDRA moles and a space one to gather allies for a new big bad.

(Side note: I'm still really stoked that we're getting S.W.O.R.D. at all since Fox had been sitting on its film license for 20 years.)

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#121361: Sep 25th 2020 at 11:01:21 AM

[up][up]Furry representation!

Edited by Zarius on Sep 25th 2020 at 11:01:41 AM

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#121362: Sep 25th 2020 at 11:08:32 AM

It's been 12 years and Sam Jackson still wants to keep playing Fury. cool

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#121363: Sep 25th 2020 at 11:20:11 AM

@Targetmaster Joe - My serious speculation is pretty much that. Might be a good way to introduce more info about Monica Rambeau.

Also, in terms of Skrulls, I kind of wonder if the MCU will ever introduce the Superman parody Ethan Edwards. I can see how he might feel duplicative if Hulkling (who I'd be more interested in seeing) is set of appear, but I can kind of envision a less satirical take on Ethan, where he's a Patrick Warburton "annoyingly perfect/ annoyingly vanilla" type, but not morally warped the way Edwards is in the comics.

I can kind of see him being a very "All American" SHIELD or SWORD agent who hides the fact that he's a Skrull. Or else, I could see him appearing on She Hulk or some other show which has civilian characters, and keeping the aspect of him Clark Kenting very unconvincingly, but again, have him hide the fact that he's a Skrull.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#121364: Sep 25th 2020 at 12:51:11 PM

Can't wait to start season 2...just gotta get through Defenders first because my completionist ass says so. What joy.

Defenders... is flawed. The main villain What-A-Waste-Of-Sigourney Weaver isn't very good, the plot that they built up over the course of Daredevil and Iron Fist fails to live up to the buildup, and the series finale paints the writers into a corner where their only escape is to break characterization ("Hey, let's all suspend our no-kill rule for this one special exception and 9/11 a building full of ninjas so that we can actually end this story. Then we'll all go back to our own shows and talk about how we never kill people.")

On the positive side, the actual titular team interacting is pretty damn great in the same way Avengers was, and the fight scenes are good. It's a good popcorn-munching show, at least, and delivers on the crossover element even if it trips up on the culmination-of-a-plotline element.

Iron Fist season 2 is unironically good and one of the best entries in the Netflix catalogue though. People who enjoyed/tolerated season 1 will like it because it's improved in every single way. People who hated season 1 will like it because Danny suffers a lot. It has something for everyone!

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#121365: Sep 25th 2020 at 12:54:07 PM

It’s rather sad that Iron Fist season kinda wrecked Danny’s reputation. As I hear he’s quite a Butt-Monkey in Defenders, with even Luke traditionally his BFF treating him like an idiot.

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Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#121366: Sep 25th 2020 at 1:01:01 PM

IF was released during The Defender's production and they stand by they didn't alter anything, which seems to be the case. He gets a reasonably fair shake in the Defenders, though possibly unintentionally: He argues from day one the protagonists should just fight the Hand head-on but Matt, Luke and Jessica all stand by that they need to find other ways to beat them (with that trio operating as if they're fighting the complex sociopolitical issues they fight on their home shows rather than just some eldritch ninjas). Danny turns out to be entirely correct in this assessment as the reluctance of the others in fighting the Hand head-on directly causes Stick's death, Danny's capture and the near destruction of New York, with the day being saved when the other three take his advice and go for broke against the Hand.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#121367: Sep 25th 2020 at 1:03:25 PM

The news about the Nick Fury show is amazing and unexpected. I had figured he was taking more and more passive roles in things because he was getting up there in years, but taking point on a show that's going to have to have actionized parts would seem he's still got it.

If the MCU hadn't wasted Strucker, I would totally want Strucker to be the Big Bad of the series. I've always perceived Baron Strucker as Nick Fury's Evil Counterpart and archenemy.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Sep 25th 2020 at 1:04:21 AM

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#121368: Sep 25th 2020 at 1:04:36 PM

I've always stood by they should just be absolutely shameless and introduce a more canon-like Strucker as the father or grandfather of the AOU Strucker we know and don't even remember.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
Lexicona Since: Feb, 2014
#121369: Sep 25th 2020 at 1:24:24 PM

I'm just looking forward to the introduction of Billy Kaplan. And speaking of Billy, I have a theory as to how the MCU could introduce the X-men into the MCU. Wanna hear it?

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#121370: Sep 25th 2020 at 1:26:01 PM

Go for it.

[up][up][up][up] Heh that’s funny.

Edited by slimcoder on Sep 25th 2020 at 1:26:28 AM

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Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#121371: Sep 25th 2020 at 3:18:19 PM

The latest rumour mill is Keanu Reeves is being pondered to play Moon Knight.

As always, enough salt to preserve a thousand meats here, but the idea felt interesting enough to post here. It is however curious that Keanu Reeves is basically every ethnicity on the planet (being of Aboriginal Hawaiian, English, Irish, Chinese and Portuguese descent) except the ones Marc Specter is/should be (that is, canonically Jewish and should be African if you want to downplay the Mighty Whitey aspects).

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ChumlyX1995 Since: Jan, 2020
#121372: Sep 25th 2020 at 3:52:03 PM

I’d rather see Keanu as a villain for a season.

Not the protagonist

Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#121373: Sep 25th 2020 at 3:53:35 PM

Which notable villain would he fit?

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#121375: Sep 25th 2020 at 4:03:46 PM

Didn't he already play a vampire? Or am I thinking of Nick Cage?

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