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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#121326: Sep 25th 2020 at 5:33:38 AM

First, and only, so far.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#121327: Sep 25th 2020 at 5:37:44 AM

Ah seeing Pearlmutter’s pet project fail brings a warm smile to my face. grin

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#121328: Sep 25th 2020 at 5:40:20 AM

I really wanted to see the Inhumans movie, I was hyped for it the same way everyone's hyped for Eternals right now. Black Bolt is an awesome character.

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#121329: Sep 25th 2020 at 5:40:51 AM

Same here, Black Bolt was wasted.

The legend has returned.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#121330: Sep 25th 2020 at 5:42:17 AM

Shame since Vin Diesal really wanted to play him.

Edited by slimcoder on Sep 25th 2020 at 5:42:55 AM

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#121331: Sep 25th 2020 at 5:52:11 AM

Lockjaw is only surviving Inhuman,he's currently at a pet shelter waiting for his forever home.

sad

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ShadowWingLG Since: Dec, 2013
#121332: Sep 25th 2020 at 5:54:08 AM

I agree the Inhumans are full of story ideas, the main problem with trying to shove them into the Mutants/X-Men slot is they are not exactly "Hero" material. They are a strict caste/eugenics basic society ruled by an absolute monarchy where if you don't have the right genes to 'qualify' for terrgenisis or develop 'good' powers once you do go through it you are doomed to remain at the bottom of the ladder, they were introed in the comics as VILLIANS IIRC. They are also very 'flashy' and would need allot of production work/value poured into them to make them work on screen. They cannot be done "On the cheap" as Perlmutter found out the hard way.

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#121333: Sep 25th 2020 at 6:01:14 AM

But isn't Vin Diesel Groot already?

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Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#121334: Sep 25th 2020 at 6:02:11 AM

Can the eventual X-movie adopt Lockjaw?

Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#121335: Sep 25th 2020 at 6:03:31 AM

First they need to have a tiny alien dragon.

Wake me up at your own risk.
Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#121336: Sep 25th 2020 at 6:07:15 AM

[up]Fox probably rejected Lockheed as soon as they heard the concept.

Akirakan Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#121337: Sep 25th 2020 at 6:14:42 AM

[up][up][up][up] And Gemma Chan was Minerva and now she's playing Sersi, I doubt anyone would care that Vin Diesel is playing both Groot and Black Bolt.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#121338: Sep 25th 2020 at 6:19:23 AM

Lockheed is in The New Mutants apparently,what a waste

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Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#121339: Sep 25th 2020 at 6:20:52 AM

[up]In other words, he might as well have not existed.

jakobitis Doctor of Doctorates from Somewhere, somewhen Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Doctor of Doctorates
#121340: Sep 25th 2020 at 8:10:20 AM

But isn't Vin Diesel Groot already?

Only the voice. And Black Bolt not having a voice (that he can use) is kind of his shtick. He could easily do both.

Edited by jakobitis on Sep 25th 2020 at 4:11:07 PM

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Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#121341: Sep 25th 2020 at 9:10:38 AM

Benedict Cumberbatch did both Strange and Dormammu in the same movie

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Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#121343: Sep 25th 2020 at 9:54:09 AM

I feel like Black Bolt's easy enough to play as: just look intimidating.

The legend has returned.
Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#121344: Sep 25th 2020 at 9:56:17 AM

Being really expressive without even saying a word would be important. And even in those few times there is talking, there needs to be something else, given what happens when he does.

Wake me up at your own risk.
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#121345: Sep 25th 2020 at 9:56:52 AM

Anson Mount made a whole new sign language just for the character, if anyone deserves to reprise their role from that show, it's him.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#121346: Sep 25th 2020 at 9:58:10 AM

> I feel like Black Bolt's easy enough to play as: just look intimidating.

Might as well be a prop in that case

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Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#121347: Sep 25th 2020 at 10:00:23 AM

Yeah saying you just need to look intimidating to play Black Bolt is a misunderstanding of how acting works. Black Bolt doesn't speak but he obviously communicates, and for an actor to play him you need a guy with a strong body language and perhaps Facial Dialogue, same as any silent character who communicates.

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Funny but not helpful
#121348: Sep 25th 2020 at 10:01:02 AM

Medusa says she can interpret his every slight gesture but I think she’s just saying whatever she likes sometimes

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Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#121349: Sep 25th 2020 at 10:02:24 AM

And Black Bolt can talk, so when he does, the actor needs to be ominous enough given the wave of destruction that follows.

Wake me up at your own risk.
ShadowWingLG Since: Dec, 2013
#121350: Sep 25th 2020 at 10:08:39 AM

When Anson Mount got cast to play Captain Pike in ST:Discovery he got RAVE reviews at his performance, that performance was one of the factors for the "Strange New Worlds" spin off got green lit. Lots of people stated he was under-used as Black Bolt and could have done much better at the character if he wasn't stuck in the badly written/plotted Inhumans Series.

So yes I'd be in favor of him reprising the role in a DECENT Inhumans adaptation


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