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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#121001: Sep 14th 2020 at 2:29:46 PM

The character in the comics pretty much is the recurring "just a light sweat" villain, so him becoming that too in the MCU is fitting.

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
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#121002: Sep 14th 2020 at 2:56:37 PM

So, now that Kang's definitely a thing now, do you guys think he'll be the new Thanos or just an Ultron-level threat where he's just there for the one movie?

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Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#121003: Sep 14th 2020 at 3:00:44 PM

With Kang, I think he might be seen completely defeated only for another version to suddenly pop up causing a major crossover.

Edited by Blueace on Sep 14th 2020 at 7:01:57 AM

Wake me up at your own risk.
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#121004: Sep 14th 2020 at 3:08:13 PM

I highly doubt they'd use up Kang on just an Ant-Man movie, so I expect this is building him up for a crossover return in the future.

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#121005: Sep 14th 2020 at 3:20:06 PM

I saw a cool suggestion on Reddit that Kang could also appear in his "Victor Timely" persona as a time cop in the Loki show.

Codafett Knows-Many-Things Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Waiting for you *wink*
Knows-Many-Things
#121006: Sep 14th 2020 at 3:48:30 PM

If they're smart they'll never do a Thanos style saga again. 20 movies of build up worked once and I highly doubt it would again, even if it's just a handful people would prefer to see the villain sooner than later..

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#121007: Sep 14th 2020 at 4:39:42 PM

I'm just wondering how Kang is going to work from a heist movie template. Maybe he takes something from Scott's time, and they have to go into his terrible future to steal it back. A Dystopian Heist.

But character plot wise, the very first thing I thought of was Scott impulsively trying to go back in time to get the years he lost with Cassie back, becoming a bit of a point of contention between them as he comes to accept that she's a woman now - yadda yadda leading into her origin as Stature.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#121008: Sep 14th 2020 at 4:41:10 PM

yadda yadda leading into her origin as Stature.

Or Stinger.

Or maybe a combination of the two identities: Sting-Ture!

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#121009: Sep 14th 2020 at 4:47:22 PM

Statinger? Sounds like a mecha.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#121010: Sep 14th 2020 at 4:53:32 PM

Kang stories often deal with the idea that messing with history has consequences, so I imagine that plays into it. Maybe someone is not happy with the shit the Avengers pulled in Endgame to get the Infinity Stones.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#121011: Sep 14th 2020 at 5:16:52 PM

"The bill comes due."

Mordo shows up, says this, and leaves.

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#121012: Sep 14th 2020 at 5:41:56 PM

Though antman seems like a weird choice to have him appear in first.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#121013: Sep 14th 2020 at 5:44:17 PM

Wasn't Kang a part of Hank Pym's convoluted history of baddies created by him, or is that just Ultron?

Edited by Weirdguy149 on Sep 14th 2020 at 8:44:38 AM

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chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
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#121014: Sep 14th 2020 at 5:52:54 PM

Kang doesn't really have any connection to Hank Pym in the comics.

He did first appear as Fantastic Four villain back when he went by Rama-Tut. He's had a nebulous connection with them, with some stories suggesting he may or may not be a descendent of Doctor Doom.

I dunno, haven't really followed a lot of Kang stories from the comics. Most of my knowledge comes from his appearances in the cartoons.

Codafett Knows-Many-Things Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Waiting for you *wink*
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#121015: Sep 14th 2020 at 5:53:40 PM

Mordo's on the list of "potential sequels but nothing concrete". Frankly, I think he was dealt with in whatever wild adventures Strange had between his movie and Infinity War.

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Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#121016: Sep 14th 2020 at 5:53:59 PM

Doesn't Kang have like four different origins and they are all simultaneously true or something?

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#121017: Sep 14th 2020 at 5:54:50 PM

Is mordo not appearing in multiverse ?

Seems a shame as he was being built up.

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chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
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#121018: Sep 14th 2020 at 5:56:38 PM

According to IMDB, Mordo's still set to appear in Multiverse of Madness. I haven't heard anything to suggest he wasn't.

Edited by chasemaddigan on Sep 14th 2020 at 8:56:51 AM

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#121019: Sep 14th 2020 at 5:58:11 PM

The entire plot of the Infinity Saga also seems like something Mordo would see as vindication. His whole gimmick was that he realized magic as of itself is a harmful force to the universe and must be stopped. The entire events of the Infinity Saga are caused by the (magic) infinity stones causing a ungodly amount of suffering to the universe and nearly bringing upon its end. Ergo, what he warned came to pass.

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#121020: Sep 14th 2020 at 6:02:48 PM

The bill came due.

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#121021: Sep 14th 2020 at 7:52:36 PM

Mordo was the closest thing to an interesting character in Doctor Strange after the now-dead Ancient One. It'd be a shame if they wasted him.

Edited by AlleyOop on Sep 14th 2020 at 10:52:49 AM

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#121022: Sep 14th 2020 at 7:58:21 PM

He's Dr. Strange's Arch-Enemy. There's no way he's not coming back in a big way.

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#121023: Sep 14th 2020 at 8:16:59 PM

Have we made guesses that Kang here is now a descendant of Tony Stark instead of Reed?

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#121024: Sep 14th 2020 at 8:53:45 PM

But character plot wise, the very first thing I thought of was Scott impulsively trying to go back in time to get the years he lost with Cassie back, becoming a bit of a point of contention between them as he comes to accept that she's a woman now - yadda yadda leading into her origin as Stature.

Nah, that would be out-of-character, Scott's too responsible to do something stupid like that.

JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#121025: Sep 15th 2020 at 8:21:37 AM

I imagine that Kang will be a villain who grows stronger with each appearance.

To the point that in his final appearance, he will be as great a threat as Thanos.


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