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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#120801: Sep 5th 2020 at 11:34:13 PM

In the comics Stephen Strange is pretty ashamed of his Dr. Jerk past.

Though it should be noted that in the recent comics he made a Deal with the Devil to get his hands fully restored so he could go back to being a (hopefully less jerkish) surgeon.

TBF, he did it because he needed to save a kid's life, and he needed his old surgical skills to do it.

Edited by M84 on Sep 6th 2020 at 2:39:15 AM

Disgusted, but not surprised
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#120802: Sep 6th 2020 at 1:34:48 AM

Was it Mephisto?

He always does this sort of thing.

Did he ask for a marriage?

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#120803: Sep 6th 2020 at 5:47:53 AM

Man, that's awkward considering One More Day ended up happening because Strange wasn't able to cure a bullet wound.

Edited by chasemaddigan on Sep 6th 2020 at 8:48:12 AM

Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#120804: Sep 6th 2020 at 5:54:31 AM

Well Strange in the comics has had his own share of deals with demons.

During Hickman's run f.e. he made one to kill a bunch of Justice Leage expies via Ctulhhu tentacle horror.

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Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#120805: Sep 6th 2020 at 6:05:28 AM

[up][up] One More Day only works by making everyone into useless idiots and making Peter a lot less mature than he should be. Makes you wonder if there was some illusions so he took the deal in the first place or something.

Wake me up at your own risk.
Aleistar Since: Feb, 2018 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
#120806: Sep 6th 2020 at 7:13:41 AM

If I remember correctly, the reason for magic not working on May was because her soul was ready to die, but Peter couldn't accept that it was her time. Mephisto was literally the only one who would prolong her life. Real great way to end the marriage, Marvel.

Edited by Aleistar on Sep 6th 2020 at 7:14:16 AM

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#120807: Sep 6th 2020 at 7:35:25 AM

So the reason Peter’s marriage ended was because he was a selfish prick.

The legend has returned.
Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#120808: Sep 6th 2020 at 7:36:54 AM

Only good thing that came out of this mess of a character assassination was Peter letting the air out of Wilson Fisk.

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Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#120809: Sep 6th 2020 at 7:39:19 AM

[up][up]The reason was he couldn’t let things go, accept the passage of time. A fitting metaphor for the comic industry.

FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#120810: Sep 6th 2020 at 8:09:47 AM

So the reason Peter’s marriage ended was because he was a selfish prick.

If you had to choose between letting someone who raised you die / giving up your marriage ...

...in the moment I'd assume most people would struggle with that.

There's palpable irony - Uncle Ben died because Peter made a selfish choice, and now May will die if he doesn't make the selfish choice.

Edited by FOFD on Sep 6th 2020 at 8:10:54 AM

AyyItsMidnight Look, just be decent to one another ok? Since: Oct, 2018
Look, just be decent to one another ok?
#120811: Sep 6th 2020 at 8:13:21 AM

And thus Mephisto, the literal Satan of the Marvel Universe...was condemned to being mostly linked with breaking off a marriage.

Self-serious autistic trans gal who loves rock/metal and animation with all her heart. (she/her)
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#120812: Sep 6th 2020 at 8:29:17 AM

It’s a moral quandary that loses water because May tells Peter to let her die already

She’s been eighty for sixty years. She’s unbelievably tired

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#120813: Sep 6th 2020 at 8:31:34 AM

> Only good thing that came out of this mess of a character assassination was Peter letting the air out of Wilson Fisk.

You are now picturing The Kingpin flying around the room a helium balloon

Edited by Ultimatum on Sep 6th 2020 at 3:39:06 PM

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#120814: Sep 6th 2020 at 8:47:37 AM

Yeah, that’s why I said he’s selfish, May explicitly wanted to die.

The legend has returned.
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#120815: Sep 6th 2020 at 10:08:10 AM

Yeah, Peter dipped a bit into Anakin Skywalker territory pretty heavily in OMD - speaking very heavily in the voice of writers and editors who were afraid to let any part of the Status Quo go.

Man, the behind the scenes subtext of that story is so transparent. It comes off almost like a tantrum: "if you're going to change how Spider-Man is supposed to be, why not just go and kill off Aunt May, huh? And since we're obviously not going to do that, lets get rid of new changes like that marriage." Ugh.

Meanwhile, in a story with actually mature writing...

Edited by KnownUnknown on Sep 6th 2020 at 10:12:50 AM

Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#120816: Sep 6th 2020 at 10:19:02 AM

Not to mention the selling your wife and your unborn kid. If Aunt May and Uncle Ben knew about that one, they'd be so disappointed.

In these stories, the best you can do is to walk back on them ASAP. Or just tear Peter apart over this mess. Whatever works.

Edited by Blueace on Sep 6th 2020 at 2:20:42 PM

Wake me up at your own risk.
AyyItsMidnight Look, just be decent to one another ok? Since: Oct, 2018
Look, just be decent to one another ok?
#120817: Sep 6th 2020 at 10:19:29 AM

[up][up]I'm not crying, you're crying!

Self-serious autistic trans gal who loves rock/metal and animation with all her heart. (she/her)
jouXIII The One Who Knows Many Things from Between the Multiverses (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#120819: Sep 6th 2020 at 10:34:12 AM

They write Peter Parker likes he's Peter Pan trapped in Never Never New York Land

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#120820: Sep 6th 2020 at 10:45:00 AM

@Known Unknown Anakin Skywalker territory? Sorry, could you elaborate?

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#120821: Sep 6th 2020 at 11:01:21 AM

Sheer inability to let anyone go to the point of extreme and ultimately self destructive desperation?

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#120822: Sep 6th 2020 at 11:07:56 AM

Oh. The other part of the comment kind of threw me off.

I suppose it's appropriate that Disney owns both characters now. At least Peter didn't murder children or strangle MJ.

miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#120823: Sep 6th 2020 at 11:09:20 AM

He did slap her very hard once during the clone saga though.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Role Model
#120824: Sep 6th 2020 at 11:10:35 AM

Okay, so again, what faults in the films does Doctor Strange have that might make him unworthy of Mjolnir?

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon

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