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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

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Goku Black
#120676: Sep 2nd 2020 at 4:17:31 PM

At least they'll have other movies and show that will give them Time for what decision they should make.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#120677: Sep 2nd 2020 at 4:17:36 PM

I'm surprised he didn't make a back-up plan in case the worst happened.

miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#120678: Sep 2nd 2020 at 4:18:32 PM

I think sadly he might have genuinely thought he was going to beat it.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
Shadao Dorzma Forever! Artwork by Kris Dobbins. (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Dorzma Forever! Artwork by Kris Dobbins.
#120679: Sep 2nd 2020 at 4:19:47 PM

[up] Apparently, he did realize he may not beat it after all about week before his death.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#120680: Sep 2nd 2020 at 4:25:40 PM

Things must have really taken a sudden turn for the worst if it caught him off guard this badly.

If he really only realized he wasn't going to beat it only a week before his death, then something must have seriously gone wrong at the last moment.

One Strip! One Strip!
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#120681: Sep 2nd 2020 at 4:33:29 PM

Cancer is a terrible disease that can do things like that.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#120682: Sep 2nd 2020 at 4:56:19 PM

I had a conversation with someone who pointed out that while he may not have had COVID himself, the current situation could have affected his ability to coordinate with doctors, keep regular treatments and regimens, etc, which might have contributed to the downturn.

Which... well... sucks.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Sep 2nd 2020 at 4:56:33 AM

C105 Too old for this from France Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Too old for this
#120683: Sep 3rd 2020 at 1:23:02 AM

Man, 2020 really sucks. And to think Boseman was one year younger than me...

I had occasionally wondered what would happen if one of the Avengers stars were to meet some kind of accident (say, if Robert Downey Jr had a car crash right before filming Endgame), and I don't think it is possible for the filmmakers to seriously plan for such an eventuality. And it is even harder with someone like Boseman and the impact Black Panther had.

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Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#120684: Sep 3rd 2020 at 4:34:18 AM

Luckily, they have a phase or two of movies in the works, so they have plenty of time to think about how to move forward.

The legend has returned.
ShadowWingLG Since: Dec, 2013
#120685: Sep 3rd 2020 at 5:13:16 AM

I do believe that SOMEBODY at Marvel/Disney knew about the cancer, as morbid as it is insurance policies are taken out on stars just in case they die in production and they end up scrapping/re-working/re-shooting the film, the payout is to help defray the costs of said re-working or to negate part of the loss if they have to cancel the film.

IIRC Disney/Lucasfilm did get some sort of payout when Carrie Fisher passed and that was out of the blue.

Since physical exams are sometimes needed to get the policies and the cancer would have been noted, if not disclosed directly. Now how far down the chain the news would have gotten is entirely up in the air. And yes somebody responding well to treatments can go south in a huge hurry. A close friend had cancer and one week he was okay but not great, the next he was in the hospital and shortly after he got home he was gone.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#120686: Sep 3rd 2020 at 5:44:38 AM

[up] Condolences.

It feels scummy that Disney got paid when Carrie Fisher died.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#120687: Sep 3rd 2020 at 2:08:09 PM

[up][up] Really sorry to hear that about your friend.

Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#120688: Sep 3rd 2020 at 2:58:11 PM

[up][up] Yeah, but like Shadow said, her death did require huge changes to a movie. If it makes you feel better, in pure money I doubt the insurance payout was a profit for them. It just helped defray the costs of reworking everything. Not to mention the emotional cost; as I understand it, everyone loved her.

Life insurance always feels a little skeevy because you're planning for someone's death, but it is genuinely important. It's better than them dying and their family/friends/employers having to deal with that in addition to not having the money to help.

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TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#120690: Sep 3rd 2020 at 5:26:18 PM

[up][up] I'm actually rather conflicted... I mean, on paper, it does sound scummy to get money when someone passes on, but then life insurance is a thing, sooo...

Oh hey! The Hollywood Reporter talks about Chloe Zhao and Eternals!

Kevin Feige citing One-Punch Man? Interesting choice of anime there... (not that I'm complaining. wink)

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#120691: Sep 3rd 2020 at 5:35:57 PM

Among the movie’s unexpected set pieces is a Bollywood dance sequence, with some 50 dancers.

Finally a Marvel musical. grin

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#120692: Sep 3rd 2020 at 7:03:28 PM

Externals seems like the next Guardians then.

The legend has returned.
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#120693: Sep 3rd 2020 at 7:48:15 PM

Can't wait for the sequel, Internals.

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Role Model
#120694: Sep 3rd 2020 at 7:50:26 PM

...Eternals.

Externals would be something outside of the MCU.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#120695: Sep 3rd 2020 at 7:51:03 PM

Wake me (at night) when we get the Nocturnals.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#120696: Sep 3rd 2020 at 7:51:43 PM

I think Marvel has the rights for the Externals back but why would they want them

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
ArthurEld Since: May, 2014
#120697: Sep 3rd 2020 at 8:02:39 PM

Also, how does that make it like Guardians?

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Role Model
#120698: Sep 3rd 2020 at 8:28:11 PM

I heard they were gonna finally debut Mephisto in Infernals.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#120699: Sep 3rd 2020 at 8:38:25 PM

A team of mother superheroes, call them the Maternals.

Nightwire Since: Feb, 2010
#120700: Sep 3rd 2020 at 8:46:10 PM

Pietro and Wanda are the Fraternals.


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