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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#120651: Sep 1st 2020 at 4:31:10 PM

It'd be really interesting if we got a game that mapped out Wakanda's capital in the same way a game like Spider-Man maps out NY or other urban transveral games map out other fiction cities.

I don't think there's ever been something that dedicated itself to fully mapping out a design for Wakanda and its cites.

Aleistar Since: Feb, 2018 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
#120652: Sep 1st 2020 at 4:59:05 PM

I think Ta-Nehisi Coates had a map of Wakanda and neighboring countries in the beginning of his run, but I think the extent to which we know about Wakanda's capital in the comics is that it's near the Royal Necropolis.

EDIT: Here's the map.

Edited by Aleistar on Sep 1st 2020 at 5:02:03 AM

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#120653: Sep 1st 2020 at 5:04:44 PM

I actually thought the same about a Black Panther game back when Black Panther was released. You could have the royal palace as your hub, character customization and leveling up being Shuri's upgrades, multiple cosmetic suits as Shuri's different designs, maybe the Royal Talon as a summonable air back-up and secondary hub.

To differentiate from the usual Batman/Spider-Man affair you could have gameplay aspects of simulating BP's role as King and politicking with the Council of Elders, maintaining citizenship morale and whatnot, so if you're viewed as a good King the people receive you well (and maybe even help you as mobs during fights) or if you're a bad one people throw rocks at you in the streets (and might occasionally fight you). As I joked back then.

> Do you spare Klaue?

> Yes > No

> Yes

(W'kabi will remember that)

Edited by Gaon on Sep 1st 2020 at 5:05:40 AM

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#120654: Sep 1st 2020 at 5:10:13 PM

Right this is what I remember.

He had these knuckle-dagger things, I think he also formed a staff by combining them in the show.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#120655: Sep 1st 2020 at 7:04:55 PM

Okey I read that map and...is pretty damn good, I like the idea that nigerian seen wakanda rise not for their vibranium but by sizing territories for them and now impact their relation, it make feel wakanda as more real and it actually show their complexities.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#120656: Sep 1st 2020 at 7:12:05 PM

That's not Nigeria, it's Niganda, a fictional country.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Sep 1st 2020 at 7:12:49 AM

Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#120657: Sep 1st 2020 at 7:19:55 PM

With how many fictional countries these universes invent to not use the real ones, you'd think their version of Earth is twice as big compared to the real life version.

Wake me up at your own risk.
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#120658: Sep 1st 2020 at 7:35:34 PM

Funny enough, it was remarked in JLA/Avengers that the DC Earth was slightly larger to account for all the fictional cities and countries.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#120659: Sep 1st 2020 at 7:37:36 PM

[up][up][up]Oh sorry I miss it.

I wonder what would wakanda surrondy countries said when they find out it is a super tecnological powerhouse and hiding all this time.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
Altris from the Vortex Since: Aug, 2019 Relationship Status: Not caught up in your love affair
#120660: Sep 1st 2020 at 9:28:38 PM

Probably something like "you had all this super-advanced tech all this time and you didn’t bother to stage a humanitarian invention when we were in trouble from [x event]? Smh".

So, let's hang an anchor from the sun... also my Tumblr
Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#120661: Sep 1st 2020 at 10:07:22 PM

The bigger question would be how would the bigger nations react to what amounts to a new most advanced nation in Africa.

Wake me up at your own risk.
Akirakan Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#120662: Sep 2nd 2020 at 11:20:05 AM

So Feige and Marvel as a whole were unaware of Boseman's illness.

Boseman was confident to overcome it and was ready to start his physical work to recover muscle mass in September.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#120663: Sep 2nd 2020 at 11:27:06 AM

Well that's just extra depressing.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#120664: Sep 2nd 2020 at 12:03:56 PM

Damn they were just in the dark as the rest of us.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#120665: Sep 2nd 2020 at 12:28:33 PM

Edited myself to remove a bad joke.

Edited by Weirdguy149 on Sep 2nd 2020 at 3:32:30 PM

The legend has returned.
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#120666: Sep 2nd 2020 at 12:31:09 PM

oooooh,that's tasteless

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
Brandon Deadly Vu! from Between Thanksgiving and Christmas (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
Deadly Vu!
#120667: Sep 2nd 2020 at 12:43:27 PM

That article also mentions he intended to be involved in "What If?" So does that mean he never got to?

Like creepy stories? Check out my book!
C105 Too old for this from France Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Too old for this
#120668: Sep 2nd 2020 at 1:47:08 PM

This is extra sad indeed.

Whatever your favourite work is, there is a Vocal Minority that considers it the Worst. Whatever. Ever!.
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#120669: Sep 2nd 2020 at 3:21:42 PM

Oh wow.

So there was no plan here? Again wow.

One Strip! One Strip!
miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#120670: Sep 2nd 2020 at 3:46:46 PM

Man marvel will really need to think what their going to do now. Seems that this is one case where their are no easy answers on what to do because of how unexpected and sudden his death was.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#120671: Sep 2nd 2020 at 3:56:12 PM

I'd seen it reported that he did the voice work for the cartoon before his passing. Generally, in animation, voice recording is done first so that the animators can properly animate the mouth movements and facial expressions during dialogue scenes.

miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#120672: Sep 2nd 2020 at 3:56:51 PM

Huh so it may be his last role

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
Aleistar Since: Feb, 2018 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
#120673: Sep 2nd 2020 at 4:00:42 PM

I know he was also working on an adaptation of Ma Rainey's Black Bottom, and that's apparently already finished filming. But if he did finish voice work on What if then that would be his last role.

Edited by Aleistar on Sep 2nd 2020 at 4:02:06 AM

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#120674: Sep 2nd 2020 at 4:06:07 PM

Ideally, Marvel Studios should reunite with Chadwick Boseman's family and friends after the dust settles to discuss what's to be done with the Black Panther series after this in a manner that's most respectful to Boseman's legacy.

Now, from what I gathered of Boseman's opinions in life, it seems to me that the best route would be to continue the franchise with Shuri taking up the mantle (as Boseman seemed extremely proud of the role Black Panther had for the African and African-descended communities around the world and was all-in in wanting to see it flourish further, particularly with the recent events), but ultimately I feel that decision should lie with his family and friends (including his friends that made the movie, of course), but who knows.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#120675: Sep 2nd 2020 at 4:16:09 PM

Yeah, it's probably not the best time to try and figure out what direction to take the series, especially considering how many are still reeling from his death. And with the MCU as a whole being on hiatus due to COVID-19, there isn't really a rush to plan that far ahead.

I'm not sure what's the best way to handle this. It's a tragic loss that blindsided everyone. Hopefully, Marvel will find a way that will honour both Boseman's legacy and be respectful to his loved ones. But that will happen in due time.


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