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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#120601: Aug 30th 2020 at 9:50:23 AM

Honestly, i worry that him doing all those movies meant his condition worsened.

Like Colon Cancer is beatable in early stages. I have a couple of relatives who thankfully beat it.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Aug 30th 2020 at 9:51:02 AM

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#120602: Aug 30th 2020 at 10:38:15 AM

Having heard about Claire Voyant, how do you suppose she will fit into the MCU?

I could see her as a Dr Strange character, either as a villain or ally. The "possessed by the devil" thing will likely be excised if she did appear in the MCU.

lrrose Since: Jul, 2009
#120603: Aug 30th 2020 at 10:38:40 AM

Ryan Coogler wrote a rather touching statement on Boseman's passing.

I've always liked Boseman as an actor, but reading up on him now that he's gone makes it clear that he was an incredible person too. What a horrible loss.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#120604: Aug 30th 2020 at 10:40:09 AM

It's never easy to read things like this, but the act is always appreciated.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Akirakan Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#120605: Aug 30th 2020 at 11:04:53 AM

This is Star Wars, this is Lord of the Rings, but for us… and bigger!

Damn, I got teary reading that. He really saw Black Panther as a game changer.

Damn, so it also seems that Coogler was unaware of his cancer :/

Edited by Akirakan on Aug 30th 2020 at 1:05:09 PM

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#120606: Aug 30th 2020 at 11:50:28 AM

yeah, Ryan Coogler found out just like everyone else did after the news of Chadwick's death hit. sad

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#120607: Aug 30th 2020 at 11:54:41 AM

Man. This whole thing is still so raw.

It's just hard to believe.

One Strip! One Strip!
MFLuder Since: Jul, 2012
#120608: Aug 30th 2020 at 1:54:13 PM

One thing I wonder is how they managed to keep Luke, I Am Your Father levels of secrecy around his having cancer.

Edited by MFLuder on Aug 30th 2020 at 1:54:23 AM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#120609: Aug 30th 2020 at 2:30:50 PM

The cynic in me says None disclosures agreements,but the optimist beside me insists out of sheer respect for him no wanted to break the news

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
deuteragonist Since: Dec, 2013
#120610: Aug 30th 2020 at 3:20:18 PM

I know it has been two days now, but the news of Chadwick Boseman's death has been hitting me hard. Not to be too personal on the internet, but it's been quite triggering as someone struggles with serious anxiety that is directly linked to thanatophobia. 2020 just ain't been it, y'all. For real.

However, it's also just been devastating as a fan. Chadwick Boseman's portrayal of T'Challa meant the world to me, as well as his portrayal of other real life black heroes. Blackness, as beautiful and wonderful as it is, is often met with exhausting realities. Yet somehow, Black Panther managed to be such an encapsulating moment of joy that I remember very vividly. Words cannot express, as a black comic book nerd, what it meant to see a powerful, kind, compassionate, and loving character like T'Challa on screen. And from what I understand, that was all Chadwick.

There will never be another Chadwick Boseman. The man was a hero both on-screen and off-screen. Fighting his battle with cancer all while continuing to be an inspiration and a phenomenal talent. And even in death, this man continues to inspire.

I feel so much pride and so much pain all at once.

[down][awesome]

Edited by deuteragonist on Aug 31st 2020 at 8:29:55 AM

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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Role Model
#120613: Aug 31st 2020 at 2:25:59 PM

I like the suit, but it's missing the blue of a Captain America look. I get that Bucky has blue but no red and white, but I really want Falcon to keep the shield.

It occurred to me that Tony's pretty much the only "super" character that Natasha's ever successfully lied to or interrogated. Loki gave as good as he got, but T'Challa absolutely destroyed her attempt to analyze him (especially knowing "Shuri, Okoye, and Ayo can handle this while i just sit here and wait for a couple minutes").

I will read Coogler's tribute momentarily.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#120614: Aug 31st 2020 at 2:38:11 PM

[up]When he did that exactly?.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#120616: Aug 31st 2020 at 3:23:45 PM

At this point I suspect Sam actually officially becoming Captain America will be an end of the season thing. Like Daredevil.

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#120617: Aug 31st 2020 at 3:25:44 PM

I agree. It looks like the costume is deliberately devoid of Captain America elements, and my expectation/hope is that at the end of the season, he'd wear something like this instead.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#120618: Aug 31st 2020 at 4:16:41 PM

Looking forward to seeing Falcon America in live action....

...did I just invent an awesome Fan Nickname for him? Cause I feel like I did.

One Strip! One Strip!
miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#120619: Aug 31st 2020 at 4:18:56 PM

Falcon America: the eight (give or take) Avenger.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#120620: Aug 31st 2020 at 4:29:22 PM

So we don't want to call him Captain Falcon?

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#120622: Aug 31st 2020 at 4:37:46 PM

You know, guys, I only realize it now, but.... I kinda like Sam's Cap costume better than Steve. I mean, neither are really my favourite superhero costume type, but I feel like Sam's is a bit more interesting. And I really like that he wears a Captain America outfit that's its own style rather than just the same with slight variations.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#120623: Aug 31st 2020 at 4:45:14 PM

I like Captain Falcon's comics costume insofar that Steve's is very campy and a grandfather-clause remnant of a campier era. That said I think the Civil War-onward film version of Cap's costume are nigh-impossible to beat, as it's the perfect way of modernizing Cap's costume into something that both retains the classic design while also looking practical and badass.

Sam's pre-Snap costumes are pretty good, as they're basically his hyper-practical Ultimates costume with a few throwbacks to the red of his 616 design, but trying to compromise with a hyper-comicky 616 recolor of his military outfit strikes me as ill-suited. Better to pick one and stick with it, going whole-hog.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#120624: Aug 31st 2020 at 4:45:24 PM

[up][up][up][up]We did until Nintendo sued the forum.

[up][up][up]Also good.

Edited by comicwriter on Aug 31st 2020 at 4:45:48 AM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#120625: Aug 31st 2020 at 4:45:56 PM

Dern

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