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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#120451: Aug 26th 2020 at 4:22:03 PM

I doubt whale populations were bouncing back after five years not to mention they’d be affected by the halfening too

More likely is that the sharp decrease in boat traffic is the cause

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#120452: Aug 26th 2020 at 4:25:56 PM

Hela helmet was an actual prop and not CGI to my surprise

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#120453: Aug 26th 2020 at 4:30:39 PM

Depending on the scene; there's a couple of BTS shots of fight scenes where the horns were CGed later.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#120454: Aug 26th 2020 at 4:38:22 PM

So critical reception for the finale Foxmen New Mutants is being released & its apparently a dud of a film.

Damn did the franchise go under so deep.

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#120455: Aug 26th 2020 at 4:42:07 PM

I think the case was that there was a legitimate helmet with horns used for close-ups and the like, but it was too heavy and unwieldy for any kind of movement, so CGI was used whenever Hela had to fight or otherwise move around too much. This is a pretty standard tactic. E.G The Witch-King of Angmar's ridiculous mace also goes back and forth between being a prop and CGI (it's a prop whenever its standing mostly still, but its CGI when its being actually wielded because it was so heavy no human being could wield the damn thing)

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#120456: Aug 26th 2020 at 4:42:40 PM

Did the critics get advance screenings? I didn’t think the film was out yet.

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#120457: Aug 26th 2020 at 5:24:34 PM

[up] From what I can tell, no. The critics were not given special advanced screenings and had to attend public screenings in order to watch it. This actually caused a few publications to announce they wouldn't be reviewing the film unless they were guaranteed a safe environment to watch it in.

From what few reviews have come out, the film isn't really that spectacular.

But man, I'm sure all those sites that claimed the New Mutants is going to be incorporated in the MCU were right on the money!

Altris from the Vortex Since: Aug, 2019 Relationship Status: Not caught up in your love affair
#120458: Aug 26th 2020 at 5:34:23 PM

Ah. I haven't seen the film/read the comics it's based on, but I read the plot synopsis on the link and it sounds like a cool idea.

...Not going to a theater to see it, though, I agree with the critics there. It'll end up on Disney+ eventually, I presume.

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#120459: Aug 26th 2020 at 5:37:53 PM

I don’t believe it’s actually coming out

Sure there are release dates and people reviewing it apparently but that’s circumstantial compared to how much it’s been delayed

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#120460: Aug 26th 2020 at 6:56:20 PM

I'm more disturbed by the prop of Hela's head than I am intrigued by the horns.

Altris from the Vortex Since: Aug, 2019 Relationship Status: Not caught up in your love affair
#120461: Aug 26th 2020 at 8:24:27 PM

Just finished Captain Marvel. A few stray observations:

- If Carol isn't wearing her space mask in the end, why was she wearing it before? Was she still technically in the atmosphere?

- I feel like too much of the movie was focused on setting up the more present-day movies. But we get young Nick Fury, so that's a plus.

- Young Coulson! Never thought I'd see the day, but I like seeing Coulson in any Marvel thing so I'm not complaining.

- Now I see why they kept Carol out of Infinity War/Endgame for the most part. Definite Story-Breaker Power. So cool to watch though.

- Is it me or does Carol sound a little weird in the post-credits scene?

Edited by Altris on Aug 26th 2020 at 8:24:42 AM

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#120462: Aug 26th 2020 at 8:37:05 PM

She wore the space mask when she was still getting the hang of her powers in the climax. It appears during then or at the end is when she unlocked breathing in space.

Carol might've sounded weird in the stinger because Brie Larson was filming that scene against a green screen and wasn't with the Avengers actors. It was also shot before she started filming Captain Marvel.

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#120463: Aug 26th 2020 at 8:47:38 PM

So she can breathe in space? Rad.

Yeah, green-screen makes sense. I honestly should get around to watching Endgame sometime, watched Infinity War a few weeks ago but haven't had the time or motivation to follow up.

Speaking of Infinity War, the scenes at the end where people start getting dusted are really haunting. The way the dust just holds an impression of the person's face for a few seconds before dissipating... Chills. Also, the Peter scene really hit hard, which is surprising because I never watched Homecoming, only Civil War and Infinity War. I have some problems with Infinity War but dang if those scenes aren't amazing.

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#120464: Aug 26th 2020 at 8:49:57 PM

My biggest complaint is that they didn't license anything from Pearl Jam as a music cue. Here we got Nirvana, The Avengers had Soundgarden, and The Punisher had Alice in Chains. Why not complete the circle of grunge's big 4, eh.

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#120465: Aug 26th 2020 at 9:21:01 PM

It always bothers me when people say "breathe in space" when they mean "don't need to breathe in space". They're not breathing, there's nothing to breathe, that's the problem with space. Characters who can live in space just don't need to breathe, period, and their bodies aren't affected by the vacuum of space in any other way.

Now, a character that actually CAN "breathe in space" would be something else entirely, because that would mean they can breathe space. As in, they breathe the very fabric of reality itself.

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#120466: Aug 26th 2020 at 9:32:05 PM

There actually isn't a good reason why they kept Carol out of Infinity War, unless somehow Cap and Natasha had no means of contacting Fury to keep him updated and see if he or Hill had any advice. They didn't know he'd have her in his back pocket, but they could've at least informed him in an "all hands on deck" sort of way.

There's no good reason Wong, Carol, and Okoye weren't in Endgame more, and especially no good reason that they weren't even informed of the Time Heist. Especially given Wong is the most knowledgeable living person on the ramifications of fucking with time that the MCU has.

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#120467: Aug 26th 2020 at 9:40:50 PM

They could've taken Hawkeye's place. tongue

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#120468: Aug 26th 2020 at 9:47:48 PM

Wong has an out in that Doctor Strange probably needed him to be on Earth to make all those portals and so he contacted him while meditating at some point before he got snapped.

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#120469: Aug 26th 2020 at 9:51:01 PM

Wong didn't need to go on the Time Heist (though he could've helped a ton), but he should've at least been consulted. It's a pretty big thing they did, and the exact kind of existential threat that sorcerers are generally responsible for.

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#120470: Aug 26th 2020 at 10:02:40 PM

Probably why they didn't invite him.

Dicking around in time is one of those things you'd expect him to try to stop.

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#120471: Aug 26th 2020 at 11:16:50 PM

We know he's not too opposed to messing with time to serve a purpose.

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#120472: Aug 26th 2020 at 11:19:35 PM

"Well, don't stop now."

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#120473: Aug 26th 2020 at 11:39:41 PM

For all my (justified) hatred of time travel in fiction, I kind of give a pass to the Time Heist in Endgame. Mainly because it gave us some of the funnier and heartwarming scenes in the MCU.

That and the time travel doesn't fix everything.

Edited by M84 on Aug 27th 2020 at 2:40:12 AM

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#120474: Aug 26th 2020 at 11:45:53 PM

Thats why I said you'd expect. From the surviving Avengers who don't know him very well.

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#120475: Aug 26th 2020 at 11:53:08 PM

Huh I wonder if we might ever get the Squadron Supreme.

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