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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
I think I've said this before, but I deeply appreciate the patience they had to save Cap wielding Mjolnir for Endgame. They could just as easily have had Cap pick up Mjolnir in 2012, but nope - they had the foresight, faith, and restraint to know that Hammer Cap would have much more impact seven years later.
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Have my favorite version of the "EMH opening but live-action" trend:
There wasn't any earlier reason or opportunity for Cap to seriously pick it up. They may have intentionally written it that way, or it might've been circumstance.
The worthiness requirement in Avengers 1 was just used to slow down Hulk momentarily in their fight. It hadn't earned its significance yet. In Age of Ultron, it was used for a joke in the party scene, and then "paid off" with Vision later in the film, once that worthiness requirement was actually hammered (puns) home to the audience with the earlier party scene.
And then those were the only times Cap was seen around Mjolnir until endgame.
Man, I remember thinking we were never gonna get that scene after Mjolnir was destroyed in Thor: Ragnarok.
I only realized Endgame had given us that opportunity again just seconds before it actually happened.
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That's what I mean. They could've done Cap + Mjolnir for the fanservice in Avengers 2012 or in Ultron, even though the threats in either case wouldn't really warrant it. Instead, they saved it for what was probably the very last battle Cap will see on screen, and it ended up being way more impactful than it would have otherwise.
That scene is from the comics.
I'm very sad it didn't make in any of the movies (yet, I suppose).
"All you Fascists bound to lose."I'm sad that Cap's speech against Thanos was omitted.
Captain America: As long as one man stands against you, Thanos, you'll never be able to claim victory.
Thanos: Noble sentiments from one who is about to die.
Captain America: I've lived my life by those sentiments. They're well worth dying for.
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."That's another one that saddens me. They even had the perfect beat for it, when Cap has his shattered shield and is walking towards Thanos.
"All you Fascists bound to lose."> This is explained in-movie. Thanos’s homeworld, Titan, has a population problem. He proposed killing half the population to fix it. Everyone thought that was a dumb idea, and his planet was ultimately destroyed by overpopulation.
I know that part,but I've always suspected Thanos's account was'nt entirely truthful
have a listen and have a link to my discord serverThere is nothing to suggest otherwise.
Just in terms of Gamora's home world being a paradise now, there is the conflicting information from GOTG that she is the only survivor and Word of God tried to reconcile this by saying "Maybe Thanos isn't entirely truthful".
But that would be out of character, given that even Nebula went out of her way to say that her father is many things, but not a liar.
Certified: 48.0% West Asian, 6.5% South Asian, 15.8% North/West European, 15.7% English, 7.4% Balkan, 6.6% ScandinavianOne theory I heard was what really killed off Titan's population was their planet being off its axis, since that's the first thing Quill notes when they land on the planet. However, because Titan was overpopulated at the time, Thanos just assumed that was what really drove his people to extinction and he never stopped to consider any other factors that led to it.
Because otherwise, how does a society being wiped out just cause the planet to go off-balance? Unless Titan was like that to begin with, but still...
IIRC the theory is if a planet goes off its axis it could cause a huge environmental shift on the planet and that would of course cause massive deaths and climate disruption at minimum.
If the people of Titan couldn't adapt fast enough they would be heading for an extinction level event regardless of the current level of overpopulation.
Captain America: As long as one man stands against you, Thanos, you'll never be able to claim victory.
Thanos: Noble sentiments from one who is about to die.
Captain America: I've lived my life by those sentiments. They're well worth dying for.
He doesn't give the speech, but I noted (and it was included in the awesome moments section for Endgame) that the scene where Cap straps a damaged shield to his arm and faces Thanos' entire army on his own before the Calvary arrives (on his left) is anagolous to that scene from the comics.
He's literally the one many standing against Thanos and his victory, and they are noble sentiments that Cap is very much willing to die for. I wish I could remember my original post about it too, since I wasn't the one who put it in the awesome moments section. I don't know if it's in this thread, or the Endgame thread to be honest.
One Strip! One Strip!I guess it was felt less was more in regards to Cap just standing up again against overwhelming odds
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Yeah, you don't need to actually have the verbal exchange when it's meaning was clearly communicated without either character saying a word.
It's mostly a situation where movies have the advantage in nonvebal communication because they have orders of magnitude more frames to depict visuals, while comic books have the advantage in verbal communication because they don't need to worry about pausing the action to create enough time for a line of dialog to happen.
[x6] Yeah, it definitely makes a lot of sense narrative-wise if Thanos was wrong about the very reason behind the events that motivatied him. A big part of Endgame's premise is that he was sort of right about the environmental effects of his plan, like with Steve mentioning the whales coming back... but the people were NOT prospering, because overpopulation wasn't the issue he thought it was.
"There are whales in the bay" is the MCU's "Venice's water is clearer, nature is healing
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God, I love Fight As One. And EMH in general.
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