Welcome to the main discussion thread for the Marvel Cinematic Universe! This pinned post is here to establish some basic guidelines. All of the Media Forum rules
still apply.
- This thread is for talking about the live-action films, TV shows, animated works, and related content that use the Marvel brand, currently owned by Disney.
- While mild digressions are okay, discussion of the comic books should go in this thread
. Extended digressions may be thumped as off-topic.
- Spoilers for new releases should not be discussed without spoiler tagging for at least two weeks. Rather, each title should have a dedicated thread where that sort of conversation is held. We can mention new releases in a general sense, but please be courteous to people who don't want to be spoiled.
If you're posting tagged spoilers, make sure that the film or series is clearly identified outside the spoiler tagging. People need to know what will be spoiled before they choose to read the post.
Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
If you’re going by who “deserved” to get revenge on Thanos Gamora and Nebula would have been on top of the list
The movie wasn’t interested in playing that game. They gave the win to Tony to bookend Iron Man starting the franchise
Forever liveblogging the AvengersThere is something to be said that Nebula, having seen how empty revenge was, prioritized trying to reach out to her sister Gamora instead
Forever liveblogging the AvengersI'm not an unbiased party, I admit. I love the Guardians films and the 2nd one especially made the Gamora/Nebula/Thanos thing more compelling and fleshed out, and after Infinity War I was like "okay, Gamora's death was a rotten and unnecessary way to go out but Nebula's still around and now they've got the chance to bring everyone including Gamora back and more specifically the two sisters have their chance to kick Thanos' ass hard and get some sort of closure for all the hellish abuse he's put them through all their lives."
But no, there's no proper encounter between them, Gamora as we knew her is still dead, and Tony Stark gets the cathartic killing of Thanos and his armies that should've gone to the sisters. Basically the ultimate and most egregious culmination of Tony subsuming the franchise when he really shouldn't be.
Self-serious autistic trans gal who loves rock/metal and animation with all her heart. (she/her)The possible upside is that it killed him and I’d rather Gamora and nebula not die
Which doesn’t rule out Thanos being killed another way but this specific method I don’t begrudge letting Tony have
Forever liveblogging the AvengersI think if Nebula was going to kill Thanos, it should've been at the beginning of the film. I can picture Thanos admitting he was too harsh on her and her just chopping his head off out of rage.
I get why they had Thor do it, since he was the Avenger who had the most personal vendetta against him. It makes sense. But I'd say you wouldn't have to change much in his character arc if he wasn't the one to do it. He can still be a depressed mess, but this time it's because he didn't have his vengeance. You still got the basic concept of "killing Thanos didn't make me happier", just not have him be the one to personally do it.
Tony killing Thanos makes sense because... well, it's Iron Man. He's the one who started the MCU, so of course he's gonna be the one to take out the final boss. Having Nebula kill 2018!Thanos I think has more emotional weight to it than her being the one to kill 2014!Thanos.
But hey, at least we have the world of fanfics to fill that void.
Nebula killing Thanos and it being on Nebula-o-vision could also add a lot to Past Nebula's decision to double down and double down again on being the Loyal Daughter.
Forever liveblogging the AvengersI also found it a beit weird, considering that Thanos is at least a thousand years old, that the filmmakers made the distinction between "Warrior" Thanos and "Philosopher" Thanos.
I mean, measly 5 years shouldn't make such a huge difference in terms of attitude and physical prime for a being of that age.
For those who don't know what I'm talking about
https://comicbook.com/marvel/news/avengers-endgame-young-thanos-nickname/
Edited by Forenperser on Aug 25th 2020 at 10:37:50 AM
Certified: 48.0% West Asian, 6.5% South Asian, 15.8% North/West European, 15.7% English, 7.4% Balkan, 6.6% Scandinavian![]()
I think it's a combination of Nebula being starved for genuine positive acknowledgment/2014 Thanos taking his future self's reflections that he was too hard on Nebula to heart, presumably under the idea that "hey, this guy snapped away half the universe, he must know what he's doing". Since he started treating 2014 Nebula with more than indifferent contempt, he basically cemented her loyalty.
To be fair, much the same thing happens with Thor (though I think the switch from Ao U to Ragnarok Thor was a bit much), and Thanos went through quite a bit in those five years in terms of setbacks and loss.
Edited by Khfan429 on Aug 25th 2020 at 1:39:58 AM
Thanos in endgame does seem to conclude that infinity war Thanos was wrong in general.
Regarding Tony killing Thanos, it makes a whole lot of sense from a Doylist standpoint. Iron man kickstarted the MCU, and the character had to be retired since RDJ wanted to call it.
Leviticus 19:34I like that kind of hammers in how full of bullshit Thanos is. He can (he thinks anyway) destroy and recreate the universe and just creating more resources doesn’t occur to him because he’s super set on the killing half solution
Forever liveblogging the AvengersTo be fair, I get the impression that the gauntlet can’t do that, simply because it’s trivially obvious.
Leviticus 19:34![]()
![]()
He is still hung up on what happened to his planet and is so arrogant he thinks all those ravaged civilizations would thank him for it. But it turns out that they'd just grieve the lost forever, would be doomed for a slow death and if they knew about him, anyone capable would have made a beeline to try and kill him.
His planet hit overpopulation, he recommended killing half the inhabitants to save it and was rightfully called a madman.
Edited by Blueace on Aug 25th 2020 at 8:22:05 AM
Wake me up at your own risk.This is explained in-movie. Thanos’s homeworld, Titan, has a population problem. He proposed killing half the population to fix it. Everyone thought that was a dumb idea, and his planet was ultimately destroyed by overpopulation.
Leviticus 19:34

> Peter might have been a bit more open to EDITH if that happened, maybe.
I'm picturing Peter attacking Thanos with an army of drones,Thanos waves his hand and oops
the drones are on his side now
have a listen and have a link to my discord server