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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#120326: Aug 24th 2020 at 12:53:52 AM

Random casting idea: Keith David as Achebe.

ArthurEld Since: May, 2014
#120327: Aug 24th 2020 at 1:42:37 AM

Oh, you mean the Reverend Doctor Michael Ibn al-hajj Achebe, P.H.D.

Or as he's sometimes called, "Bob."

While its easy to do the character without Mephisto, cause I doubt they want to bring him for a Black Panther movie, his big story is taking over Wakanda in a semi-legitimate way...which was just done in the first Black Panther movie, so they'd have to try something a little different.

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#120328: Aug 24th 2020 at 3:18:10 AM

I'll be amazed if Mephisto ever appears in any of the movies.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#120329: Aug 24th 2020 at 4:27:57 AM

[up] And buys someone's marriage.

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#120330: Aug 24th 2020 at 4:34:31 AM

I want this guy in the Marvel Cinematic Universe now,he's hidious!

And Spiral,pretty please

Edited by Ultimatum on Aug 24th 2020 at 12:09:14 PM

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HallowHawk Since: Feb, 2013
#120331: Aug 24th 2020 at 5:17:50 AM

[up] I once asked the same about Mojo though I forgot the full specifics of what I brought up. I do have to ask though: where is he best suited to appear? A hypothetical X-Men movie or Guardians of the Galaxy?

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#120332: Aug 24th 2020 at 5:29:24 AM

At this point it's Guardians of the Galaxy for weird stuff,you could even sneakily introduce the concept of mutants in before relaunching the xmen films

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lbssb The sleepiest good boi Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#120333: Aug 24th 2020 at 7:17:04 AM

Mojoworld being mentioned as existing in the Fox X-Men universe in Deadpool 2 was legitimately one of the most shocking revelations in a recent superhero film to me.

On the topic of Deadpool, while it seems clear at this point that Ryan will continue to be Deadpool into the MCU (thank God for that, cannot imagine anyone else in the role), what are you guys' thoughts on his supporting cast? Keep the same characters and actors from his movies (aside from TJ Miller, of course. And, come to think of it, probably Colossus, since they'll probably want to use him as a part of their X-Men reboot), or just give him a completely new supporting cast, while having him lampshade where all his old friends went?

I ask because I really wanna see Dopinder again. I just love that little guy.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#120334: Aug 24th 2020 at 7:23:56 AM

They can probably keep a few characters like Dopinder and Blind Al.

They'll need to recast a lot of others though (such as Collosus like you mentioned, and probably Domino as well).

In fact, I expect pretty much all the mutant characters to be recast.

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Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#120335: Aug 24th 2020 at 7:24:46 AM

I feel like Colossus and Negasonic should stay. Everybody else can vary.

Dirtyblue929 Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#120336: Aug 24th 2020 at 9:41:57 AM

Yeah, Negasonic kind of has to stay with Deadpool and/or be played by Brianna Hildebrand. The character pretty much owes its entire continued existence to the first Deadpool movie.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#120337: Aug 24th 2020 at 9:47:33 AM

I wouldn't be surprised if Mephiso appears in movie form as the source of a kind of evil mysticism that Achebe can influence.

Rather than an outright character himself, basically how it would go is that hearing the word of Mephisto would be presented as Achebe's Evil Counterpart to T'Challa's ability to attune himself with the Panther Realm and gain advice from his ancestors.

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Role Model
#120338: Aug 24th 2020 at 9:55:56 AM

As an opposite to Bast? I'd thought similar.

Zazie Beetz as Domino was ''fantastic.

lbssb The sleepiest good boi Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
The sleepiest good boi
#120339: Aug 24th 2020 at 10:06:25 AM

Unfortunately, I think they'd have to hold off on Negasonic and Yukio as well for a bit, at least until the X-Men are fully established in the MCU. When that happens, though, I think those two are probably good to stay as they are, more or less. They wouldn't have Colossus (at least, not the same dynamic with him), but would probably remain fixtures of the DP series and not have much to do with the main X-Men stuff.

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#120340: Aug 24th 2020 at 10:08:09 AM

Cable could also stay the same, since Brolin doesn't have to double as Thanos anymore and his connection to the Summers family wasn't established in DP2. I really hope Domino stays the same, too.

Edited by lbssb on Aug 24th 2020 at 10:09:17 AM

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lbssb The sleepiest good boi Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#120341: Aug 24th 2020 at 10:08:22 AM

Accidentally posted the same thing twice, sorry.

Edited by lbssb on Aug 24th 2020 at 10:09:04 AM

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Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#120342: Aug 24th 2020 at 10:09:15 AM

There is an edit option, you know? There is no need to triple post.

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lbssb The sleepiest good boi Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
The sleepiest good boi
#120343: Aug 24th 2020 at 10:09:51 AM

Yeah, I accidentally pressed backspace instead of the edit button at first. My bad.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#120344: Aug 24th 2020 at 10:11:38 AM

I dunno. Having the same support cast of X-Men despite the MCU having no infrastructure to justify their presence, and then making a joke about it, seems like exactly the Deadpool thing to do.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Aug 24th 2020 at 10:12:12 AM

lbssb The sleepiest good boi Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
The sleepiest good boi
#120345: Aug 24th 2020 at 10:14:30 AM

[up] Yeah, that's why I'm thinking Dopinder, Blind Al, Negasonic and Yukiko are good (and maybe Russell, Vanessa, Cable, and Domino), plus Weasel with a recast (preferably someone completely different from TJ Miller as a gag), but since Colossus is one of the premiere X-Men, he's probably the only one who would be wholly reinvented for the sake of using him in the mainline X-Men stuff.

Edited by lbssb on Aug 24th 2020 at 10:16:16 AM

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chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
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#120346: Aug 24th 2020 at 10:25:11 AM

Maybe they'll do something like the old X-Men universe ends up collapsing because of all the time-travel and retcon shenanigans, so Deadpool's cast manages to flee to the MCU where things are a bit more stable?

Might be a bit cruel for the old canon, but the X-Men always have a Bad Future awaiting them one way or another.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#120347: Aug 24th 2020 at 1:48:37 PM

> Maybe they'll do something like the old X-Men universe ends up collapsing because of all the time-travel and retcon shenanigans, so Deadpool's cast manages to flee to the MCU where things are a bit more stable?

As a throwaway gag?Sure

But I think fans of the Xmen would be a little bummed at the implications(I would be anyway)Xmen have had a rough ride thanks to Fox so I don't think rubbing it in is the way forward

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Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#120348: Aug 24th 2020 at 2:44:30 PM

Somebody just ruined Endgame even further for me :<

They pointed out that Thanos could've won by just immidiately ordering his ships to rain fire on the heroes the second they stepped out of the portals, with minimal losses, since the armies were relatively far apart at the beginning.

Edited by Forenperser on Aug 24th 2020 at 11:44:48 AM

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Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#120349: Aug 24th 2020 at 2:52:00 PM

While this is very dependent on the precise events of the "Multiverse of Madness", I'd love to see Deadpool and a few members of his supporting cast get pulled into the MCU from the Fox X-Men-verse as a consequence of the events of Doctor Strange 2. This fact is revealed in the second after credits scene rather then in the movie proper.

By the time we catch up with Deadpool for either Deadpool 3 or a proper cameo, he's already settled in to his new home and lampshades the change in continuity.

Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#120350: Aug 24th 2020 at 2:53:39 PM

[up][up]Really?

Honestly, I do not think it would have made much of a difference; They came out of these portals relatively fast, the entrance being merely stretched for dramatic effect and so we would see everyone come out. Plus the distance was still small enough that they might have reached him before he would have had time to give the order.

I swear, people like this sound like they're looking for things to nitpick at.

Edited by Theokal3 on Aug 24th 2020 at 11:54:21 AM


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