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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#120301: Aug 22nd 2020 at 7:48:44 AM

It's pretty funny how Charles and Scott are complete opposites of each other in terms of popularity in comics vs movies.

In the comics, Scott's an amazing character and Charles is a big creep.

In the movies, Charles is a sweet grandpa and Scott's a big loser.

The legend has returned.
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#120302: Aug 22nd 2020 at 7:52:40 AM

Thats get you get for picking Patrick Steward really

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#120303: Aug 22nd 2020 at 8:06:42 AM

Patrick Stewart could make comics Xavier more likeable i bet.

[up] And Mc Avoy.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#120304: Aug 22nd 2020 at 8:10:15 AM

Oh yeah if he was alive he’d fail horribly to save Jean so Logan can do all the hero work.

Man it’s creepy how we’re supposed to support Logan getting it on with a woman who’s already in a long-term relationship with another guy.

In the movies' defense, I don't think we are supposed to support it. Jean makes it clear that she prefers Scott at the end of it all and when they're kissing in 3, Logan is shown to be uncomfortable and it's clear it isn't Jean but the Phoenix without any inhibitions.

The whole thing seems to be played in a deliberately creepy manner.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#120305: Aug 22nd 2020 at 8:15:13 AM

Well given what we now know of Bret Ratner...

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#120306: Aug 22nd 2020 at 8:19:43 AM

It’s rather pathetic that The Wolverine has Logan pining & hallucinating after Jean despite the fact the 2 barely had a relationship.

I mean Jesus man your long-lived, is this really your most substantial relationship?

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#120307: Aug 22nd 2020 at 8:28:30 AM

Given all the time he spent amnesiac, probably.

Wake me up at your own risk.
windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#120308: Aug 22nd 2020 at 8:28:31 AM

Well, he doesn't remember most of his life before he met Jean. So yeah it probably is.sad

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#120309: Aug 22nd 2020 at 8:30:49 AM

Oh right he is amnesiac, that makes more sense.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#120310: Aug 22nd 2020 at 8:33:49 AM

Part of the problem is that Wolverine does get the last word on the subject since he gets to pine for her and make it seem like their relationship was more substantive than 'guy creeps on girl with boyfriend'

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#120311: Aug 22nd 2020 at 8:43:42 AM

Speaking of Jean Grey, man, i wonder how she'll be handled in the MCU?

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#120312: Aug 22nd 2020 at 8:48:19 AM

Well, the bar was set pretty low, but we can only have faith.

Wake me up at your own risk.
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#120313: Aug 22nd 2020 at 8:48:56 AM

I mean will she reach cosmic levels?

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#120314: Aug 22nd 2020 at 8:49:16 AM

Hopefully a romance with Logan is never mentioned. Because it is not exageration to say that it always makes all 3 look terrible.

Scott looks like a cuckolded loser, Logan a massive jerk for going after a woman in a serious relationship & a gross one depending on the age difference, & Jean always becomes an object for the men to fight over.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#120315: Aug 22nd 2020 at 8:55:02 AM

[up][up] Well, the MCU seems like the right place for it, maybe they could go nuts with the X-Lore.

Wake me up at your own risk.
TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#120316: Aug 22nd 2020 at 1:26:54 PM

maybe they could go nuts with the X-Lore.

Hate to be blunt, but they BETTER go nuts with the X-Lore. Fox was lazy AF with the X-Lore, but the MCU has proven that cosmic craziness can TOTALLY get people's attention.

Give us Excalibur, Sauron, the Savage World, Mojo, Mojoworld, Mister Sinister, Arcade, the SHI'AR! All the crazy stuff! Do not hold back on us, Feige!

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#120317: Aug 22nd 2020 at 1:33:47 PM

I'm glad Mister Sinister never appeared in the fox movies because they would have ruined his character

hes cooler then Magneto or Apoc in my books

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#120318: Aug 22nd 2020 at 1:34:55 PM

To think Apocalypse ended on a stinger hinting at him.

Edited by slimcoder on Aug 22nd 2020 at 1:35:19 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#120319: Aug 22nd 2020 at 1:35:40 PM

And latter made him a mutant in one story

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VampireBuddha Calendar enthusiast from Ireland (Wise, aged troper) Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
Calendar enthusiast
#120320: Aug 22nd 2020 at 2:20:57 PM

In the comics, Cyclops' father is a badass space pirate. Please let that make it into the movies.

Ukrainian Red Cross
Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#120321: Aug 22nd 2020 at 2:31:10 PM

[awesome]. I really want to see that both because it’s cool and because it fits so neatly with the GOTG.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
jakobitis Doctor of Doctorates from Somewhere, somewhen Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Doctor of Doctorates
#120323: Aug 22nd 2020 at 3:13:35 PM

wild mass guessYondu is MCU!Cyclops' space-pirate dad. Quill was a surrogate/replacement son.wild mass guess

"These 'no-nonsense' solutions of yours just don't hold water in a complex world of jet-powered apes and time travel."
wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Role Model
#120324: Aug 22nd 2020 at 3:28:17 PM

Last page's video on Cyclops is why I actually don't want mutants to be a big part of the mainstream MCU. I want the mutants to have a lot of space to breathe and be given depth and growth that isn't rushed, and I worry that only the biggest or more established characters on both sides of the AVX will see development. Yeah the Fox-men films didn't spend any good time on Jubilee, Gambit, Rogue, Storm, Cyclops, etc., I just hope there will be better, but am doubtful how.

Also, I really want to see them telling their own stories without too much more handwaving of why Superman stays out of Gotham.

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon

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