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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#120051: Aug 11th 2020 at 7:28:45 PM

Kind of a glass cannon

Anyway put me down as someone else who likes MCU Wanda and would have liked a movie for her. Disney plus series ain’t bad though

Edited by Bocaj on Aug 11th 2020 at 10:30:18 AM

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AyyItsMidnight Look, just be decent to one another ok? Since: Oct, 2018
Look, just be decent to one another ok?
#120052: Aug 11th 2020 at 7:31:55 PM

I've been lukewarm on Wanda so far but I'm still surprisingly interested in her miniseries. But also I just wanna give her a hug.

Self-serious autistic trans gal who loves rock/metal and animation with all her heart. (she/her)
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#120053: Aug 11th 2020 at 7:35:05 PM

Her series is gonna be fucking mental.

Plus there seems to be more of an ongoing storyline with her since she's also appearing in the next Doctor Strange movie.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#120054: Aug 11th 2020 at 8:05:27 PM

Capitan marvel have the same problem as thor which it also have the same problem as green lanter: it have this kinda sorta epic chararter and...it stuck it on earth, that is not compeling, most people just sort expect the moment when she finally got her power and do awsome stuff.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#120055: Aug 11th 2020 at 8:09:08 PM

Hot take: Scarlet Witch is the best female superhero in the MCU (prior to Captain Marvel), and she deserved a movie before Black Widow did.

Hot take: Not with how infantilized she was, she didn't.

MedusaStone Since: Jan, 2015
#120056: Aug 11th 2020 at 8:10:22 PM

I'd like to apologize for starting up the same argument again. I honestly didn't meant to.

FGHIK Since: Aug, 2013
#120057: Aug 11th 2020 at 8:21:21 PM

I hope her appearance in Doctor Strange will result in her getting more genuinely mystical powers.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#120058: Aug 11th 2020 at 8:22:19 PM

[up]You have bucky avatar, ergo your every existence cause argumentstongue

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#120059: Aug 11th 2020 at 8:30:37 PM

Hot take: Scarlet Witch is the best female superhero in the MCU (prior to Captain Marvel), and she deserved a movie before Black Widow did.

You misspelled “Valkyrie”. evil grin

Anyway WandaVision probably won’t fix her issue of being a wildly different character each installment but maybe it’ll be an actually interesting character this time around. tongue

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Aug 11th 2020 at 8:32:55 AM

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#120060: Aug 11th 2020 at 9:02:16 PM

You're right, Scarlet Witch also deserves a movie before Valkyrie.cool

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#120061: Aug 11th 2020 at 9:14:04 PM

...

Well, now I’m calling New Asgard to ask if they still have Skadi’s snake and if it needs a new set of eyes for its venom. >:(

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#120062: Aug 11th 2020 at 9:30:08 PM

You volunteering? Can't handle looking at my amazing burn?

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#120063: Aug 11th 2020 at 9:39:14 PM

@Medusa Stone

Honestly don't be, this has honestly been a lot more civil and productive than most conversations on Wanda's morality tend to be.

Altris from the Vortex Since: Aug, 2019 Relationship Status: Not caught up in your love affair
#120064: Aug 11th 2020 at 11:42:41 PM

Just finished watching Thor. It was surprisingly good, though I do have a few issues with it - namely, Jane and Thor's relationship felt rushed, Odin isn't that impressive (the "the horrors of WAR" scene is a good example), and Sif and the Warriors Three don't do much:

I did like that Thor finally got proved worthy when he told the Destroyer (and by extension Loki) that he was okay with sacrificing himself, but to not harm the civilians because they're innocent. Also, the damage is confined to one town, and Thor and friends presumably cleared all the people out to safety before the giant robot started shooting lasers from its face, so my Willing Suspension of Disbelief that no civilians were harmed can actually hold up, which is rare for a Marvel movie.

So, let's hang an anchor from the sun... also my Tumblr
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#120065: Aug 12th 2020 at 12:06:12 AM

Man I can't wait for the next Ant-Man product to see more Luis.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
jakobitis Doctor of Doctorates from Somewhere, somewhen Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Doctor of Doctorates
#120066: Aug 12th 2020 at 3:07:21 AM

The box set of the whole saga should have an extra where Luis recaps each movie.

"These 'no-nonsense' solutions of yours just don't hold water in a complex world of jet-powered apes and time travel."
Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#120067: Aug 12th 2020 at 5:21:56 AM

Capitan marvel have the same problem as thor which it also have the same problem as green lanter: it have this kinda sorta epic chararter and...it stuck it on earth, that is not compeling, most people just sort expect the moment when she finally got her power and do awsome stuff.

Kinda agree. I accepted it in both cases because it was the first movies for each, but much like Dark World was a letdown, I really hope Captain Marvel 2 will focus more on the space stuff.

On a note, I really don't get why so many people got mad about Captain Marvel getting her own movie before Black Widow did. I mean... why does that even matter? That's still a new female superhero movie, and Black Widow will now have her own movie anyway, so...

VampireBuddha Calendar enthusiast from Ireland (Wise, aged troper) Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
Calendar enthusiast
#120068: Aug 12th 2020 at 5:42:53 AM

wild mass guessAt least one of Spider-Man's parents will appear in the Black Widow movie.wild mass guess

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Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#120069: Aug 12th 2020 at 5:48:26 AM

@Altris: If you think that Sif and the Warriors Three don't contribute much to Thor, just wait till you see them continue to not contribute in the rest of the films. [lol]

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#120070: Aug 12th 2020 at 5:51:51 AM

Hell sif contribute more to agent of shield(aka: MCU little brother he never aknowlage) than in the damn movies.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#120071: Aug 12th 2020 at 6:14:17 AM

Hell, Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. was the last time Sif was in anything. She's been MIA since season 2.

Word of God says she's still alive, but I don't she was a part of the Asgardian refugees that made it to Earth.

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#120072: Aug 12th 2020 at 6:46:21 AM

The issue with Captain Marvel is that she pulled a No-Sell on Thanos. Future movies would either have to be set in the past, be highly entertaining in how she plows through oposition, or have the stakes revolve around personal conflict that can't be solved by outpunching it.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#120073: Aug 12th 2020 at 6:49:00 AM

-Rogue hears you-

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#120074: Aug 12th 2020 at 6:49:14 AM

It’s okay, when she comes back to earth she’ll learn that a mad scientist created a genetic chimera of her and the other heroes and she’ll have to train Monica Rambeau to obtain an even higher level of power to defeat it

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#120075: Aug 12th 2020 at 6:55:57 AM

Maybe that Power Stone blast also significantly injured her / lowered her power.

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